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Dreams and Death: Doorway to the Universe

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posted on Jan, 4 2010 @ 03:06 AM
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OK if this is all true, why would we come to a world with limits in the first place!?




posted on Jan, 4 2010 @ 04:20 AM
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That is all the member is here for Zazz.

Assumed spiritual authority rarely discusses anything, it usually just preaches. And preaches, and preaches.
It is only after those that will believe, that will not question.
The "preacher" will ignoring the tricky or inquisitive fish!
It awards the easy fish by claiming that they are awake and advanced, merely for not questioning the preacher, whilst this assumed spiritual authority admonishes the tricky or inquisitive fish as negative, spiritually forsaken and otherwise.




posted on Jan, 4 2010 @ 04:27 AM
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lol so I must be a naughty fish then.....
This pleases me, as I dont want to be caught in anyones net....

I have said in the OPs other threads, if you want to debate me or others who disagree that would be great, but silence ensues....

Debating is learning.



[edit on 4-1-2010 by zazzafrazz]



posted on Jan, 4 2010 @ 04:34 AM
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Sorry to offend you but I really dont like to waste my time arguing with people who have a mandate to argue, there are alot of people who like to argue and call it debate, I call it a waste of valuable time.

Jusr being honest as I have nothing to proove to you ma'am.



posted on Jan, 4 2010 @ 04:42 AM
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You have nothing to discuss is more like it.

I have asked you questions, and I have brought in other ideas, your reply is simply not wishing to engage in a discussion that questions you and indicative of your posting style.

You have not been visited by aliens.

You are preaching.

This is a saviour complex.



posted on Jan, 4 2010 @ 04:55 AM
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Oh yes I was visited since I was 3, none of this was made up and I expect some people to criticize with these posts, so your stance does not surprise me. I can assure you however, I am one of the people who stands behind the post 100%, everything I stated was real and not dreamed up.

Not only have I seen advanced civilized races, or been aboard one of their vessels, I have been taught by them on very sensitive subjects. This I know, not believe, and I will stand firm on my memory of these experiences without fear of challenge.

I shared my insight as requested, and therein I am satisfied.

I will stick to my knowledge of what I was taught directly, and you can stick to your views of what you perceive as reality from what the media and government feeds you.

Respectfully,

Unleashed68

[edit on 4-1-2010 by Unleashed68]



posted on Jan, 4 2010 @ 05:04 AM
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Sharing 'insight' is your term for preaching.

I have many discussions on ATS. Never been called a troll, nor arguementative for the sake of it. Rather I like to discuss and learn.

It appears you do not.

As for what I have been fed by the goverments, you have no idea what I believe or understand ...you dont take the time to find out and discuss do you? but i see you expect the minions to accept what you feed them? The source wants to experience all, so you should reflect that in your life from humanity, it has more to teach you than made up space visitors.

You cannot show anything that supports your spacecraft visits etc. And your "teachings" one can google and find pretty much anywhere. If that is the 'reality' you choose to live in, go for it. I have questioned your perception of reality and illusion, and given thoughts on what i think they are, but to simply dismiss them as being arguementative is well, childish.

I wish you well with your alien buddies, and when you do "cross over" you'll see that both life and death are requirements that peprpetuate infinity, and that both physical and mind/spirit are functions one as important as the other. One is not "made up" and illusionary as you claim.

You dont want to talk about it or discuss fine.

keep on a preaching....you are getting quite a cult following, enjoy it.

Edit to add...Advanced civilsations? where and what?
If you had recieved such advanced teachings one would assume you could communicate them through advancced methods and not as threads on ATS.

Surely one little iddy biddy piece of technology that blows us mere humans away. Or a descriptor and language of these civilisations?

Would you not share this with all humanity, leaders and all? Would these beings not give you a medium to share this?

Not engaging anyone who disagrees with you, is hardly advanced or benevolant behaviour .





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posted on Jan, 4 2010 @ 05:15 AM
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Originally posted by Unleashed68
reply to post by zazzafrazz
 


Sorry to offend you but I really dont like to waste my time arguing with people who have a mandate to argue, there are alot of people who like to argue and call it debate, I call it a waste of valuable time.

See, this is your assumed authority relegating any person who questions or inquires as having an agenda to merely debate, for its sake.
Your assumed authority neglects the fact that you have chosen a public forum that caters for debate, and not your sermons.
So you ignore the community in order to serve your own authority, its assumptions and the false import you imbue it with.
Double thumbs, and pinky toes down(yes! my pinky toes also assume an authority).




I'd be careful of Zazz if I were you.
Zazz is far more unleashed that you are, infact she is Zazz gone Rogue.



Get Atomic Wings Commander Sdog in here asap!



posted on Jan, 4 2010 @ 05:16 AM
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Hi Unleashed68,
I wondered if you would answer a few questions for me.

Reading your early posts, you mentioned that your impression was, that you where an incarnation of the same species of the off-world beings that visited you.

Do you have any insight as to why you have incarnated into our shared reality at this time? which you allude to could be the last few years for humanity.

What do you feel your mission is?

Is is because of your spiritual existence being from another more civilized race of being that you where visited by the other entity you mentioned?


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posted on Jan, 4 2010 @ 07:31 AM
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Hey Unleashed68
I've read your posts and I completely believe you. It may sound strange but I've been waiting for someone with a similar view like mine on the board.

What you said has helped a lot.
See I have a couple of memories before birth that took a long time for me to find any info to support it.

I remember going through the Rwenzori Mountains (which I learned was a station or whatever where a net is that wipes our memories after death) and then seeing my dad and his family in a situation that only occurred in 87 and I was born in 89

I had experiences when I was 3, 6 or 7, and 13. Nothing extraordinary but none the less things that weren't very normal to what I was used to.

In one of my dreams I was trying to wake up, and it was very strong information. Someone told me that before this life that I was a Tech Specialist for the grey's except this kinda looked like in one of the famous autopsy pictures.

I know its sudden to say this much but I haven't seen anyone else to talk to about this. I learned a lot of what you said through a few dreams, combined with my memories and reading Alien Interview by Lawrence R. Spencer.

If you want to know anything else let me know.
Thanks for coming out and saying all those things. Seriously
I tried to send a u2u but I never post enough lol



posted on Jan, 4 2010 @ 07:43 AM
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Originally posted by _Phoenix_
OK if this is all true, why would we come to a world with limits in the first place!?


I think I can answer this. Imagine tomorrow you are granted every single desire you want. I mean really imagine having everything single thing you want, no matter how weird and wild. At first you will be really excited and happy, even feeling fulfilled.

But what happens after 1 year of having every desire you ever wanted.
5 years...
10 years...
50 years...
100 years...
1000 years... of having every possible wish and desire as your reality.

Don't you think entering a world with limitations then would be enticing?

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To Unleashed68,

Thank you for sharing this information with us. One does not need to question your motivations or assume you have a big ego to appreciate the words you have shared with us. We have had quite a number of people lately saying they will relay the truth about everything, very few have delivered. This is why you will experience resistance and your word will not be taken without extreme analysis by some.

[edit on 4/1/2010 by Dark Ghost]



posted on Jan, 4 2010 @ 09:12 AM
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Thank you for your posts Unleashed68. I have enjoyed reading them and for the most part (Except when you talk about judgment.) they make sense to me. Much of what you say reminds me of Neale Donald Walsh`s writings in his Conversations With God series, which in turn remind me of the Seth Speaks books by Jane Roberts. I was wondering if you have read these books or similar ones?

I have one more question which concerns the Anunnaki as talked about by Zecharia Sitchin in his 12th Planet books. Sumerian culture is the wellspring of our modern world. Have you learned anything about the ancient history of humanity? Some believe they will return in the not too distant future.

[edit on 4-1-2010 by bridas]



posted on Jan, 4 2010 @ 09:27 AM
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Not everyone reading his words is from the viewpoint of being unfamiliar with the topics. (or is a follower, with a follower complex) At least for me, I read them and do gain something, and that is knowing I am not alone in regards to questioning certain things.

I do not need him to affirm anything I have pondered on my own, but I do enjoy the affirming notions from reading his posted material, about certain things.

But - in my opinion, I have made no sides towards his 'Alien Encounters', but it still makes for good reading. There's no need to throw the baby out with the bath water, you can just ignore what you don't like, remember? haha.

Anyways, I had a dream a couple weeks ago that encouraged me to write a short story or two. (but then, don't they always?) I still haven't gotten around to it, but I just might. More and more now, I see/hear/feel that there are reflections from my dreamtime in the real world. Or, is the real world the reflection of dreaming? In any case, in my dream a couple weeks ago, I was thinking to myself (just as thoughts go through your mind when responding to a post, for example) and had stumbled upon a possibility that felt like an epiphany during the dreamtime. After a bit of contemplation on this and other matters, all faded away and I was awake in bed.

Now, the thought that hit me as though I understood it to be true, was that when we eventually die (our bodies) our person, our existence, separates from the body and continues on in something like dream world.

Existence continues, because it cannot not exist.

Now, as far as the alien portions of the OP's various posts, I am uncertain. But of course, I would like some proof, who wouldn't like to have an answer unto themselves that would end questioning on existence of aliens?

[edit on 1/4/2010 by mynameisjuan]



posted on Jan, 4 2010 @ 01:43 PM
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This ATS site, and particularity this thread, reminds me of going to church. Everything is lots of speculation, lots of experiences without evidence.

My father used to go to church -- had a good seat because he gave lots of money. He would come home and say "Good Sermon". I'd say, what was it about. He couldn't remember.

The ET Corn Gods translation of the "Above Top Secret" is "Love to PS Re Re Total".

The translation of the word "Bible" is "i.e., e.g.".

This site and all those on it are a "Plant".

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Removed link to personal blog

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posted on Jan, 4 2010 @ 01:55 PM
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Oh, cmon.

I wanna know what SeattleTruth has to say.

Gotta be better than this hogwash.



posted on Jan, 4 2010 @ 03:39 PM
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In my opinion, what we thought of before birth, what we think of after death is not worth bothering with.

life is for the living. life is an amazing and beautiful experiences that is not for the as yet unborn and certainly isn't for the dead.

there is nothing to indicate that there is an consciousness before birth and there is nothing to indicate that there is retention of consciousness following death.

spend your time in the land of the living, living! to your fullest capacity! meet your hierarchy of needs and seek self actualization.

metaphysical contemplation is a fun waste of time, but ultimately it's a waste of time.

you know what's good, you know what's bad, make your choices and pass through this world to the best of your abilities!



posted on Jan, 4 2010 @ 03:43 PM
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I honestly wish I could I answer some of these questions, but I consciously know my answers would be speculation. My feelings are that I am somehow an investment, not financial, but in some other way, maybe as an observer. I can only speculate the purpose, or mission, but as it seems my life has been in fighting authoirty - professionally through courthouses for the public, and most of it free for people with no decent income, and my running for government as a rebel who opposed monetary structures that restrict and dehabilitize humanity as a whole, I may not be doing what I do under my own steam, I kno for sure I am definitely being guided, and when I fall off track, I am pushed back in the direction they choose, whether I enjoy it or not.

The last being I communicated with made it very clear that my time for decision by independent will was at an end, and my life turned 180 degrees overnight, just as I was told. I do not doubt a single word of what I was told, I know the words will come to be and I also know that whatever my purpose is, I have no firm knowledge, it is in the hands of the beings that are forcefully guiding me, and when I say forcefully, I mean it, it is out of my control completely.



posted on Jan, 4 2010 @ 03:48 PM
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Yes, I am very aware of history, I like anyone in my position, asked numerous questions on our ancestry, the truth about Jesus and hell, even JFK, the normal goofy questions we all would ask, I also asked and the answers were very definite and indisputable, however, as it was told to me, the answers I received to these questions were told to me to be questions that were really irrelivant to the higher forces.

They are more concerned not with our history, but with our current status, in the technological era. They do however have very keen insight into explaining the truthful inception of this generation of humantity and some of the political or religious history.



posted on Jan, 4 2010 @ 04:04 PM
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I can only speculate the purpose, or mission, but as it seems my life has been in fighting authoirty - professionally through courthouses for the public, and most of it free for people with no decent income, and my running for government as a rebel who opposed monetary structures that restrict and dehabilitize humanity as a whole, I may not be doing what I do under my own steam, I kno for sure I am definitely being guided, and when I fall off track, I am pushed back in the direction they choose, whether I enjoy it or not.


So a person with attachement to aliens and visits other planets has
been to court and lost an election....

Anyone with any sence of self would avoid politics. Nope nothing you do whatsoever can convince me it comes from a ET or benevolant being. They would not ask you to get a ATS membership and start preaching after your political forray failures lol.

The way people are asking you questions like you are some prophet was initially amusing, but now mildly alarming how fast and desperate they are to fall in to following ANYTHING.

You sound very much like Bobby Fontaine a priceless person who brought his minions to try and recruit here on ATS before. I hope they check your IP address.



posted on Jan, 4 2010 @ 04:06 PM
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Originally posted by etcorngods
This ATS site, and particularity this thread, reminds me of going to church. Everything is lots of speculation, lots of experiences without evidence.


The human mind seems built to question and speculate, it's a part of our nature as physical beings. This is the reason this site exists; so people can debate and share and form their own conclusions about this grand mystery we call existence. It's also the reason people so readily jump on Unleashed's bandwagon, whether his words are true or not. People here just want answers. We may have to accept that in life these answers will never come, and only after we shuffle off this mortal coil will the secrets of the universe be known to us.

In terms of you requiring proof? Of course everyone want's proof, that's a natural part of the questioning; we need a validation for it to become reality. But how would someone provide proof of a metaphysical experience? I've had dreams where I've had conversations with my dead father and dreams where I've inhabited the body of a Russian fisherman during WW2, and these dreams are as clear in my mind now as they were 3/4 years ago, so clear as to appear like a memory of a past event. But how can I prove this, how can I validate this to you or even to myself? Were these dreams a construct of my imagination or did they really happen. In the end personal experience will be the only proof you believe, regardless of what anyone says. Personal experience is the only way we will truely know. So until we have this "personal truth," we will keep questioning. And if your anything like me, even with a personal experience like the one's I've stated, you'll never stop this pursuit for knowledge. You're only human.



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