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First Contact & Bashar

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posted on Dec, 25 2009 @ 06:37 AM
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First Contact

It is my belief that first contact will happen on an individual basis or perhaps with small groups in natural environments away from cities. I believe the ETs are beings of highly evovled spitituality and intelligence and first contact will be made with human beings who are similarly spiritually evolved.

"Why don't you just land on the Whitehouse lawn and get it over with?" - ATSer

"Would you land in an insane asylum where all the lunatics had guns?" - Bashar

The ET contact program has been ongoing for many years via telempathic (read tel-empathic - all telepathy issues from the heart), contact with various ET races. An example of one being Bashar, a quasi-physical (they have physical bodies but no longer need them as they have evolved to the point where they can operate on a purely energetic level), being of the Essasani race. Bashar is channeled by Darryl Ankh and is here to assist us with our spiritual development and making first contact.

When I first came across channeling I thought they were blatant con artists but as I studied the material it became impossible to deny the intelligence contained in the messages.

The basic idea being that we need to raise our vibration spiritually by following our dreams and being more in alignment with our higher selves/who we really are. As we live more and more in the now in the reality we prefer we will raise our vibration to the point where we can interact physicallly with the higher vibration ET's. If we tried to make contact now without dealing with our fears and our spiritual values the experience of being in the presence of the high vibration ETs would bring up in us all our demons so fast that we would suffer psychotic shock. The few humans that have attempted to make physical conact with these high vibration ET's have ended up running for there lives because of what the ET vibration bought up in themselves, not necessarily the fear of the ET's them selves.

I don't believe first contact will happen in a 2 hour christmas special on TV. I think First contact will be very different from what almost all of us believe it will be.

All your questions are probably answered somewhere in the next 3 hyperlinks but I will help where I can if anyone has any questions.

www.bashar.org...

The following web site is nothing to do with ET's but another Channel working to raise the vibration of humanity.

www.abraham-hicks.com...

If we can all raise our vibration to the sort of level this person has achieved I believe contact will be possible.

www.limitlessness.com...

The Christ Light is returning, merry Christmas all



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[edit on 25-12-2009 by redzi0n]




posted on Dec, 25 2009 @ 08:17 AM
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IMHO there is no such thing as people who can channel entities.
The idea is ancient and it goes back to a time that one Dr Julian Jaynes describes as a time of , well... when humans tended only to listen what was outside of them; to the external voice.
Jaynes' work is way too deep to sum up here, but to a certain extent he says that our ancestors were not as psychic/psychologically evolved as we are now.
It's my opinion to combine Jaynes' work with "mediums" , but to me it explains what's happening.
Be careful ; even when what you see with the abraham stuff is endorsed by people like Wayne Dyer.
Be careful of "mediums"
They are people claiming to know "truth" in the guise of being a "channel".
Be wary of anyone claiming to know "truth"



posted on Dec, 25 2009 @ 09:21 AM
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Then you know not of what you speak. Channelling entities is not only possible but it is a fact. I do it myself regularly. My daughter is a fabulous medium. I would be sadly remiss as a mother to dismiss her abilities as flukes or freakish phenomena.

If you are taking the word of someone else, whom you feel is a credible source, then you are taking that info on faith. What right do you have to cast aspersions on another doing the same? Judgment is a dangerous thing. Do so cautiously and allow others the freedom to think - and more importantly to feel - for themselves. Until you can open your heart and mind to metaphysical events, you cannot have clear vision of what is. Here's an example of what I mean. My son is red-green colorblind. We had, during his childhood, cherry furniture. He wondered to himself why our house was all in green. Now, we who can see red spectrum know that the furniture is reddish. To him, it was just bad taste and poor judgment.

Do not attempt to discredit what you have not yet experienced.

redzi0n, are you telempathic or telepathic? Please do let me know. I'm waiting for someone to come along, besides my children, with whom I can communicate in this manner.



posted on Dec, 25 2009 @ 09:41 AM
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Keep calm. React not to agression or perceived insults. How can we ever attain a 'higher' state of conciousness if we give in to our base instincts?

With knowledge comes wisdom, and with wisdom comes a clarity of thoughts that rises above the norm of human intellect and instincts, a comprehension of humanity and its flaws of which the reality lies in the truth that none of us are perfect.

With that understanding, can compassion come to reach out to others to help attain enlightenment.........

I humbly apologise if i had caused offense in anyway.



posted on Dec, 25 2009 @ 09:50 AM
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reply to post by SeekerofTruth101
 


I'm really not sure what tone you read there but it wasn't as you have interpreted. Are you one of the two above? O_o



posted on Dec, 25 2009 @ 09:54 AM
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reply to post by CosmicEgg
 


none of anyone above saved myself. Pardon me for the presumptious interpretation then.

Cheers.



posted on Dec, 25 2009 @ 10:38 AM
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reply to post by dragonsmusic
 


They, don't really claim to speak 'truth' they just offer a point of view and suggest we follow their ideas if we find it helps us. I'm always careful/skeptical, I've studied the Bashar material for several hundred hours and theres still a tiny bit of me thats unsure but i'm 99% convinced. The information is helping me change my life for the better, I don't think fraudulent material would do that. We can only discern what is truth for ourselves. If you are interested I would suggest you look at the material a little deeper and have a rethink. If not it's obviously not right for you and I know you will get what you need elsewhere
Thankyou for reply anyway all points of view are valid and help us learn.



posted on Dec, 25 2009 @ 10:47 AM
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Yes, I think I am starting to develop my telempathic skills a little although at the moment it mainly consists of me contacting my higher self and crying uncontrollably at the beauty of the higher consciousness and all the suffering that has been gone before. However I come from a scientific background and have actually been thinking about doing some study, I was thinking of getting some of those cards with the symbols on they use for telepathic studies. I'd be happy to help with any ideas you have, send me an IM if you like.



posted on Dec, 25 2009 @ 11:03 AM
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Originally posted by CosmicEgg
reply to post by dragonsmusic
 


Then you know not of what you speak. Channelling entities is not only possible but it is a fact. I do it myself regularly. My daughter is a fabulous medium. I would be sadly remiss as a mother to dismiss her abilities as flukes or freakish phenomena.

If you are taking the word of someone else, whom you feel is a credible source, then you are taking that info on faith. What right do you have to cast aspersions on another doing the same? Judgment is a dangerous thing. Do so cautiously and allow others the freedom to think - and more importantly to feel - for themselves. Until you can open your heart and mind to metaphysical events, you cannot have clear vision of what is. Here's an example of what I mean. My son is red-green colorblind. We had, during his childhood, cherry furniture. He wondered to himself why our house was all in green. Now, we who can see red spectrum know that the furniture is reddish. To him, it was just bad taste and poor judgment.

Do not attempt to discredit what you have not yet experienced.

redzi0n, are you telempathic or telepathic? Please do let me know. I'm waiting for someone to come along, besides my children, with whom I can communicate in this manner.




Thanks for insinuating that I'm color blind in my life and in my spiritual path.
I'm not attempting to discredit anything. You're accusing me of not allowing people to feel.
Sheesh, lady.
And I've been there before.
I was a Christian .
After that I went through a New Age phase.
I don't believe mediums exist. You are only tapping into a part of your own psyche.
All I did was state my opinion in the first place; which is what this sight is for.



posted on Dec, 25 2009 @ 11:05 AM
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Originally posted by redzi0n
reply to post by dragonsmusic
 


They, don't really claim to speak 'truth' they just offer a point of view and suggest we follow their ideas if we find it helps us. I'm always careful/skeptical, I've studied the Bashar material for several hundred hours and theres still a tiny bit of me thats unsure but i'm 99% convinced. The information is helping me change my life for the better, I don't think fraudulent material would do that. We can only discern what is truth for ourselves. If you are interested I would suggest you look at the material a little deeper and have a rethink. If not it's obviously not right for you and I know you will get what you need elsewhere
Thankyou for reply anyway all points of view are valid and help us learn.



I'm not saying its fraudulent.
I'm saying it is misunderstood.
But if it helps then it helps



posted on Dec, 25 2009 @ 11:23 AM
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Then you know not of what you speak. Channelling entities is not only possible but it is a fact. I do it myself regularly.


Then you know not of what you speak. I am thinking that you and those like you have a different understanding of the word "fact" that most people do.

I would prefer that you do not refer to it as "fact", dragging that word into your fantasy only serves to degrade the word itself, while only adding to how silly such claims are I might add.



posted on Dec, 25 2009 @ 11:37 AM
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Fact
–noun
1. something that actually exists; reality; truth
2. something known to exist or to have happened
3. a truth known by actual experience or observation
4. something said to be true or supposed to have happened

which part of my experience do you know to be untrue? and not just mine but my friends and family as well. how do you justify your claims of 'fantasy' on this forum? please read the top of the page.



posted on Dec, 25 2009 @ 11:41 AM
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Is it possible that all points of view are truth, the universe is infinite and your beliefs create your reality so if you believe something to be true it must be true in your universe? I dont understand what ive just typed I think :s

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posted on Dec, 25 2009 @ 11:41 AM
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reply to post by dragonsmusic
 


I'm neither Christian nor New Age. I'm speaking only of my own experiences. Only that. You cannot categorically deny what others know to be true just because you haven't experienced it. That is tantamount to a colorblind person denying the existence of a color because he can't see it.



posted on Dec, 25 2009 @ 12:02 PM
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Bashar: "does that make sense"
Lady: "i think so..."

I have not laughed so much during XMAS, and I think this is a perfect laughing cheer for many people.

Oh please, this is such a typical new age schizophrenic perpetual prophet, speaker, . No offence (OP) for your own benefit, this person is of a complete delusional cult state.

Run away, run as far as you can ...



posted on Dec, 25 2009 @ 12:28 PM
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I see how you interpret fact now, thanks for clearing that up.

I was thinking of it as something that is documented, proven through repetition, etc. But made up in someone's mind and can't be proven to anyone other than themselves and those that live the same fantasy as they do....that is a different version of the word fact that most of us deal in.

So, yeah I guess if you honestly believe your reality then it is a fact to you at least, lol.

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posted on Dec, 25 2009 @ 12:44 PM
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Youve chosen the wrong site to post positive vibrations on. You have the debunkers on the one side and paranoids on the other side of the table here. Have fun trying to peddle bashar/hicks



posted on Dec, 25 2009 @ 01:39 PM
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Just generally it would be good to understand something. There are and have always been people who will believe nothing they don't want to believe. That accounts for the vast majority of people. Don't ask them to leave their comfort zone because it's too scary. Their fear is too great.

Only when you let go of fear and all of its associated manifestations can you believe that what you alone experience. Only then can you be absolutely sure that you are sane and living your life in a way that satisfies your soul. It takes faith in yourself to know in absolute terms anything at all. Otherwise you must have faith in others. Which is more justified: faith in self or faith in others? How many times have we all seen scientific studies of the same thing with contradictory results? And yet, it's on paper. It's good science. But I should doubt myself because my heart cannot be documented and reproduced in a lab. Really? I will leave that stupidity to others.

We are here to challenge marginal thinking. This IS a site for such things. Trolls plague us, it's true, but they are of no consequence unless we GIVE them the power to annoy us. I will stand firm in my knowledge because I know absolutely that the heart is the seat of all knowledge, not the mind. Look around you. That's the result of our minds at work. It would be oh-so-different if we used our hearts instead. I will remain true to my heart and to those like-hearted souls out there. We are the future. I hope the rest of you remain happy in your comfort zones. You needn't trouble yourselves to step off onto threads like this. We can take care of ourselves kthxbai.



posted on Dec, 25 2009 @ 01:40 PM
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I actualy considered posting this in your forum but thought i'd come here for some fun. The response has been more positive than I thought to be honest. I'm sure someone will get something from it on some level



posted on Dec, 25 2009 @ 06:43 PM
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Is it possible that all points of view are truth, the universe is infinite and your beliefs create your reality so if you believe something to be true it must be true in your universe? I dont understand what ive just


if may slightly transform what i think you want to mean:
universe is one,
truth is absolute&love,
point of views are perspectives biased by not perfect control of senses and ego



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