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reply posted on 18-12-2009 @ 06:21 AM by Isis_Is_I
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We must have watched different movies, because I'm with the OP on this one. Absolutely incredible film, totally blew me away. Enchanting and very relevant to the times.

Definitely NOT a standard movie!



reply posted on 18-12-2009 @ 06:22 AM by harrytuttle
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Well, I believe (but can't be certain) that the human characters were always real. But with the Na'vi (aliens), it was almost like you were seeing a real human face that was in make up, you know what I mean? The lips, the eyes, the facial expressions, everything except the fact that they looked alien seemed totally real. The textures, the light, the material (clothes, hair) seemed totally real, not a little bit real, I mean COMPLETELY REAL.

Then I had to remind myself that what I was seeing was 100% computer generated - it wasn't an actor. It's like what they say in the Matrix, it can't be explained, you have to see it for yourself. Just make sure it's 3D.


reply posted on 18-12-2009 @ 06:28 AM by harrytuttle
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I guess you just added to your comment that you actually saw the movie and you weren't impressed. Well, all I can say is I feel sorry for you that you missed out on the amazing experience I had (and everyone in my party of 4 had). There was an energy in the theater too - everyone was talking about how impressed they were out loud.

Wow, I'm glad I'm not you! lol I really had a great time and experienced something that blew me away.


reply posted on 18-12-2009 @ 06:40 AM by george_gaz
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Trust me ... you wish you were me

On a less jovial note ...

Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the "experience" (I attended the world premiere in Leicester Square, London, the whole shabang, speech from Cameron etc. meet and greet etc. everyone applauding and all of that jazz) and as mentioned the effects were great. I cannot say, hand on heart, that those aliens looked real.
It was good 3D work, great work and I see the angle that you are coming at.

As for the rest of the film well the message was clear but the whole romeo juliet thing was whack.

Also ... what is with the whole tree of life crap thing just turned it into esoteric hippy gnostic knowledge.


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When the tree of life thing lets Ripley (Sigourney) die but saves the dude with no legs. That whole death scene with Grace was absolutely pointless.
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Also, there were parts that were laughable. The sex scene. I mean come on. The cheesy Hollywood lines also ruined parts of the movie and made it laughable (and a comedy is not what I wanted to get out of the movie).

I did think that the story realistically represented the Colonel of the Armed Forces (and they might act in such a situation) but also the "Corporation" and its greed.

[edit on 18-12-2009 by george_gaz]


reply posted on 18-12-2009 @ 07:15 AM by stumason
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They still used human actors for the Aliens, you know. They used an advanced form of motion capture that managed to grab every facial expression and subtle movement of the actors playing the aliens. It wasn't "100% CGI" in the slightest.

To me, the story seems very bland and relies soley on the special effects to distract you from this, like many other "groundbreaking" films of the past, such as ID4.


reply posted on 20-12-2009 @ 02:13 AM by SevenThunders
I saw the film and I recommend everyone to go see it, at the very least to prove that good science fiction and expensive 3d effects are worth doing.

The story though was extremely predictable, and filled with new age cliche's. Yeah OK primitives good, whites bad, worshipping earth mother wholesome, materialism bad, corporations evil, paganism good, America evil, pagans good, technology bad, living with no clothes in dangerous rain forest good, etc. etc.

I even got caught up for a moment with the rythmic swaying of the half naked blue smurfs worshiping their earth goddess in the form of a tree. Even cooler the tree is interconnected with all the other trees on the planet, but then I remembered that I am to worship the creator, not debase myself by worshiping merely that which has been created.

For those conspiracy minded, the 3D effects can be quite mind altering. What a fantastic new tool for the elite. How easy it would be to mold your thought processes into the desired mold. You find yourself wishing you could be in this fantasy world and wishing you had the guts to risk your life every few minutes jumping off of cliffs and landing on random reptiles or flora etc. I am sure it would very exhilarating and life affirming, until the giant cat lizard had you for lunch.

I could easily see an impressionable youth seeing this and deciding to go native or to join the communist underground or to follow whatever corporate or political or even satanic spiritual subliminal message has been imprinted on his helpless unprepared mind.

Oh yeah and don't forget to go 3D with this one.



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