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They want to kill us all !!!! Are you sure ?

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posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 12:02 AM
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It occurs to me that a fairly large number of people on this board believe that their is some evil plot to kill off a large percentage of the population of this planet, that indeed it is a key element in the rise of the New World Order.

I have to ask ATS though, if thats true, how come we aren't allowed to kill ourselves ? In most developed countires sucuide / euthanasia is illegal. If the powers that be are so desperate to control population you think it would be one of the first things they tried to push through when they started to come into power.




posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 12:07 AM
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It seems to me as though they are working towards making it legal. That isn't something that can just be done over night because you have to change the mind set of the majority. That effort is already taking place with television such as House M.D. and others trying to promote empathy for the Dr.s who euthanize their patients. I think we are headed to a place where it will soon be accepted.

Edit to clarify what T.V. show I was referring to in case people didn't know just based on House.

[edit on 12-12-2009 by calstorm]



posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 12:10 AM
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Because if they did that they wouldn't have no fun They want to be the ones in control not the pesents.

Sooner or later its going to happen and then us crazies will be the sane ones and all you fools who don't believe will be the crazies.



posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 12:14 AM
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Originally posted by gYvMessanger

I have to ask ATS though, if thats true, how come we aren't allowed to kill ourselves ? In most developed countires sucuide / euthanasia is illegal.


Well killing ourselves is exactly what we're doing and all we've been doing ... in a million different ways.

Making it illegal just ensures we buy lot's of stuff before we check out.

Then we create a "they" to defer responsibility ... we are they.



posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 12:18 AM
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Originally posted by gYvMessanger
It occurs to me that a fairly large number of people on this board believe that their is some evil plot to kill off a large percentage of the population of this planet, that indeed it is a key element in the rise of the New World Order.

I have to ask ATS though, if thats true, how come we aren't allowed to kill ourselves ? In most developed countires sucuide / euthanasia is illegal. If the powers that be are so desperate to control population you think it would be one of the first things they tried to push through when they started to come into power.

Whether anyone cares about your suicide depends on how desireable and useful you may still turn out for future NWO use.
The law against suicide is mainly theoretical (it cannot be policed), and maintains that only the bloodlines, aristocracy, police, or the "law" may kill human beings. It supports the ultimate power, where citizens do not have the conceptual power over their own lives.
Thinking as a conspiracist: yes certain groups remain fair game for medical experiments (minorities, prisoners, soldiers), while the majority of countries have much suicidal despair.
Arguably, especially the black Africans and gays are under population control, as one can see with HIV/Aids, and the initial decisions by world-powers to let the virus run its course with little intervention amongst "undesireables".



posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 12:28 AM
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educate-yourself.org...

"Why Are Modern Guillotines on Military Bases in America?"

Think it could have anything to do with this?



posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 12:35 AM
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But why do we need to buy stuff before we die ? Money is a fabrication anyway?

Or is that because were not in End Game yet so buying is the way globalisation is forged ?

Good points from the people who point out how we are being killed or willfully allowed to die anyway.



posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 12:41 AM
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I suppose for me that post speaks a glaring truth: people buy their way to their own destruction with alcohol, tobacco, drugs, dodgy "foods" and "medicines".
Gee, whoever said suicide wasn't legal?
Perhaps as Slayer put it: "Mandatory Suicide".



[edit on 12-12-2009 by halfoldman]



posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 01:01 AM
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Originally posted by halfoldman
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I suppose for me that post speaks a glaring truth: people buy their way to their own destruction with alcohol, tobacco, drugs, dodgy "foods" and "medicines".
Gee, whoever said suicide wasn't legal?
Perhaps as Slayer put it: "Mandatory Suicide".



[edit on 12-12-2009 by halfoldman]


"Whether anyone cares about your suicide depends on how desireable and useful you may still turn out for future NWO use"

I completely agree.
What assets do "they" look for?
I don't know. What does it matter to them if everyone is a fu@#ing automated puppet? an automaton?



posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 01:13 AM
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Well I guess the arguement goes that the more people there are the harder it is to maintain social control.

That said just because it works out easier for them to let us die (argueably more cost effective) unless it has an impact on the status quo (mass death) doesnt mean there is an active plan to reduce population.

In fact despite the idea we are poisoning ourselves as a whole in the developed world we are living longer and there are more of us than ever before yes ? Death rates are still very high in developing countries at a young age by our standards, but at what would appear to be a normal age if we were to judge it by the standards of a hundred years ago ?



posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 01:18 AM
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Yes a certain minority class of people are living longer.
Our average life expectancy in South Africa has decreaced from 64 (odd) to 47 in the past decade.



posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 01:20 AM
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Due primarily to the rampant spread of aids in africa ?



posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 01:21 AM
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Originally posted by gYvMessanger
It occurs to me that a fairly large number of people on this board believe that their is some evil plot to kill off a large percentage of the population of this planet, that indeed it is a key element in the rise of the New World Order.

I have to ask ATS though, if thats true, how come we aren't allowed to kill ourselves ? In most developed countires sucuide / euthanasia is illegal. If the powers that be are so desperate to control population you think it would be one of the first things they tried to push through when they started to come into power.


Someone recently tried to convince me that the powers behind the NWO are spiritual vampires feasting on our suffering and enjoying our fight against annihilation. Would explain a lot including the ban on suicide and fight against legal abortion.

If you buy the whole replilian thing that is.



posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 01:27 AM
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Where were the public speeches, the needle-exchanges in every big city, where were the condoms, affordable meds and mother-to-child profilactics. When did the world finally decide that Rwanda was a "genocide"?
Oh please, when Kissinger allegedly spoke of decreasing the "useless eaters" in the late 1960s, we should have known what was coming.
OK, they wiped out smallpox (only to spread other blood-bourne illnesses), but it remains as a potential chemical weapon in several labs today.



posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 01:28 AM
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Whilst that is a pretty fringe concept. The idea that we are possibly being harvested for negative emotions does bring up the idea of population control rather than population reduction.

It makes me wonder whether when people talk about population reduction whether "the plan" is to reduce the current population down to a % of its current size, or that by killing off x number of people its only part of the control scheme but not to reduce the total number of humans, just a means of manipulating how and where the majorities lives take place.



posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 01:29 AM
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Yes, due to Aids. Particularly in a context of poor nutrition, overcrowding and rampant TB.



[edit on 12-12-2009 by halfoldman]



posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 01:30 AM
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I didn't mean any offense by the question, I agree that Aids has been used as a Bioweapon, at the very least through willfull ignoring it or perhaps even as a deliberate concotion. I was merely asking for clarification on why the average age of South Africans has been reduced to 47 from 64.

Ah I see not only the aids but they knock out your immune system and then you have no chance against allready hard conditions which are also not being fixed.

[edit on 12-12-2009 by gYvMessanger]



posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 01:36 AM
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"The Plan" for me seems like a design to keep the many working for a tiny minority with minimal direct intervention and force.
So, one doesn't want to kill all the necessary workers. One merely wants to control the exess overkill. A good gardener - pruning.



posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 01:42 AM
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Originally posted by gYvMessanger
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I didn't mean any offense by the question, I agree that Aids has been used as a Bioweapon

No offense was ever taken. I just replied candidly.
Currently the government claims to have made some reversals on that expectancy rate. They obviously want to look good.



posted on Dec, 12 2009 @ 01:45 AM
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Ok so you feel you are in a country that is receiving some fairly "heavy pruning", what do you think the reasons for that is in your countries case ? Arent native Africans viewed as generally being physically superior humans to the other types (I dont mean this in a racist way, speaking very broadly here), wouldn't it better serve the agenda to keep Africans healthy if uneducated if you where looking for a workforce ?



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