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Spectacular Phenomena In The Sky. What Is It?

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posted on Dec, 10 2009 @ 12:24 AM
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Originally posted by '___'omino

Originally posted by AshOnMyTomatoes

Originally posted by mrkurns
Nobody seems to be mentioning that witnesses have described this as a "sphere" and a "glowing ball" and not flat. This also explains why the spiral appears to be directly facing the camera in every photo.

I don't think a rocket can account for a spherical spiral?
It can account for a spherical spiral better even than a flat spiral.

If you imagine that this launch came from a very long distance from the photos' vantage point, and that the rocket probably entered Earth's upper atmosphere or even space, you begin to see that the scale isn't a problem. If the rocket was a test of an ICBM, it would have had a fair amount of unspent fuel as it reached the upper atmosphere, because it still would have a long way to go. So it's guidance goes haywire somewhere close to the horizon in that photo that's been labeled above, it starts into a spiral but it is still moving along its trajectory. Meanwhile, a fuel leakage (or hell, even a condensation trail) begins, and as the rocket spirals onward through its ballistic arc, the cloud gets sprayed out and slowly continues to move outward from the rocket. This continues until the rocket finishes its current burn stage, or runs out of fuel, or explodes, at which point the light of the thruster vanishes, the cloud glows only from the light of the sun over the horizon, and the last new part of the spiral cloud slowly expand outward like the rest of it, resulting in the dark "hole."

The entire thing is most likely extremely three dimensional, but most of the photos taken are from near head on, and from a great distance from the rocket's origin, so the spirals appear to have all been in one plane.





Well put


hmm... but the last time i checked, our Sun was not "BLUE".

just saying...




posted on Dec, 10 2009 @ 12:25 AM
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This phenomena is very clean, it seems like something that would be created by something happening at a very high velocity.
Or in space.



posted on Dec, 10 2009 @ 12:28 AM
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But shouldn't we see the spiral from other angles? For it to look the same from every angle wouldn't it have to be a perfect spherical spiral?



posted on Dec, 10 2009 @ 12:28 AM
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MAYBE DAVID WILCOCK IS RIGHT!!!


:up

[edit on 10-12-2009 by Donnie Darko]



posted on Dec, 10 2009 @ 12:29 AM
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reply to post by Phage
 


Funny I'm usually on the other side of the fence, but with this one. I really want to know what this was factually...

I'm a skeptic about other worldly phenomenon, and I really always go with the earthly explanation for anything like this event...


Ionization, Chemical Reactions, Radioluminescence... etc ...

Things we've researched and know about.

I'm also intersested why a Russian rocket would fail? Since i stated before that they've been sending rockets into Space for the past 50 years...



posted on Dec, 10 2009 @ 12:30 AM
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Wow I am speechless... Between what you wrote and your avatar, I almost believe every word...


How do you explain this has been caught on video at least once before, during the same type of test, by the same country, yet no demon anti-Christ began eating children or sending us all to FEMA Camps???


I mean I enjoy a good conspiracy, for no other reason then it makes me feel good my tax dollars are being well spent... but your "believe me its real", in light of those video documented facts, truly has me speechless... well now that I'm done talking/writing that is.


--Charles Marcello



posted on Dec, 10 2009 @ 12:30 AM
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Although I am certain that someone might have stated such before, I have little doubt that this is a rocket which lost its stability due to a failed guidance/control system. The video clearly displays an out-of-control situation which suits this theory. As for the rest of the display, the blue streak appears as exhaust being illuminated by either city lights, or if high enough in ALT the Sun, whereas the enormously dispersed cloud resembles aerosolized particles of fuel.

As for the supremely dramatic photograph of the spiral and such, that is a time-lapse shutter effect.



posted on Dec, 10 2009 @ 12:31 AM
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Originally posted by Brainiac

I'm also intersested why a Russian rocket would fail? Since i stated before that they've been sending rockets into Space for the past 50 years...


It's been posted a few times that the Russians have had many failed missile tests of late.



posted on Dec, 10 2009 @ 12:31 AM
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Its a flying sphere, heading from back to front, (flying towards us)the color is its exhaust trail reacting to some gases or the magnetic field, producing an ion type exhaust creating an artificial "northern lights"





[edit on 12/10/2009 by Kr0n0s]



posted on Dec, 10 2009 @ 12:31 AM
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Originally posted by Dbriefed
Any idea what CERN was up to at that time?

Did it finally generate a black hole?


Since you asked,


Atom smasher catches 1st high-energy collisions
AP


Atom-smasher sets record energy levels: CERN AFP/File – A view of a superconducting solenoid magnet at the European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN) …
news.yahoo.com...

By ALEXANDER G. HIGGINS, Associated Press Writer Alexander G. Higgins, Associated Press Writer – Wed Dec 9, 1:55 pm ET

GENEVA – The world's largest atom smasher has recorded its first high-energy collisions of protons, a spokeswoman said Wednesday.

Physicists hope those collisions will help them understand suspected phenomena such as dark matter, antimatter and ultimately the creation of the universe billions of years ago, which many theorize occurred as a massive explosion known as the Big Bang.

The collisions occurred Tuesday evening as the Large Haldron Collider underwent test runs in preparation for operations next year, said Christine Sutton of the European Organization for Nuclear Research, or CERN.

Two beams of circulating particles traveling in opposite directions at 1.18 trillion electron volts produced the collisions, she said. The Atlas "experiment," one of four major detectors in cathedral-sized rooms in the collider's underground tunnel at Geneva, had part of its equipment turned on and could register collisions.



posted on Dec, 10 2009 @ 12:35 AM
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Wait is there more to the video? All i saw was a spiral appearing in the sky, and disappearing, I didn't see any trail leading up to the event from the surface.

If there was a trail leading up to the Spiral from the surface, then there isn't much doubt that this was a man made object...



posted on Dec, 10 2009 @ 12:35 AM
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reply to post by m0r1arty
 


So what your saying is that it was all a viral marketing
stunt to promote the new Doctor Who uberultra-reality movie? "Splintered"?

I'll believe that...very well..case closed! Thanks

how very clever.



posted on Dec, 10 2009 @ 12:38 AM
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Originally posted by Zeptepi
reply to post by m0r1arty
 


So what your saying is that it was all a viral marketing
stunt to promote the new Doctor Who uberultra-reality movie? "Splintered"?

I'll believe that...very well..case closed! Thanks

how very clever.



Lol! Thank you, I was just thinking the same thing myself. Hopefully the poster was just being "funny"----or there are more weird people on here than I thought!!



posted on Dec, 10 2009 @ 12:38 AM
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Originally posted by Stormdancer777

Originally posted by Dbriefed
Any idea what CERN was up to at that time?

Did it finally generate a black hole?


Since you asked,


Atom smasher catches 1st high-energy collisions
AP


Atom-smasher sets record energy levels: CERN AFP/File – A view of a superconducting solenoid magnet at the European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN) …
news.yahoo.com...

By ALEXANDER G. HIGGINS, Associated Press Writer Alexander G. Higgins, Associated Press Writer – Wed Dec 9, 1:55 pm ET

GENEVA – The world's largest atom smasher has recorded its first high-energy collisions of protons, a spokeswoman said Wednesday.

Physicists hope those collisions will help them understand suspected phenomena such as dark matter, antimatter and ultimately the creation of the universe billions of years ago, which many theorize occurred as a massive explosion known as the Big Bang.

The collisions occurred Tuesday evening as the Large Haldron Collider underwent test runs in preparation for operations next year, said Christine Sutton of the European Organization for Nuclear Research, or CERN.

Two beams of circulating particles traveling in opposite directions at 1.18 trillion electron volts produced the collisions, she said. The Atlas "experiment," one of four major detectors in cathedral-sized rooms in the collider's underground tunnel at Geneva, had part of its equipment turned on and could register collisions.




And this is a coincidence here... We need to find out what this event was... If it was a blackhole phenomena that broke up... did this coincide with this Noregian phenomena?



posted on Dec, 10 2009 @ 12:39 AM
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Originally posted by Hellmutt
Less than two hours ago, this phenomena was observed over northern Norway. No one knows what is is. Do you have any idea on what it might be? If so, let us hear about it.



Photo: Odd Magne Haugen


Google translated article


In the morning rush hour, at 07.47, showed the special phenomenon in the sky. It is described as a glowing ball in the sky, which rotated and "thrown out" luminous rings. The phenomenon grew rapidly in a spiral, with bright white rings towards the edges and blue, bright rings in the center. Spiral grew steadily larger, until it eventually was significantly greater than both the moon and other things it will be normal to find in the sky.

"Spiral" also walked across the sky, leaving a bright blue track.

[---]

The whole thing lasted just under one minute and then spiral in the sky collapsed, leaving it in a dark, circular "hole" in the night sky.


Photo: Jan Erik Steine


More pictures here: www.altaposten.no...


Direct link to the article in Norwegian here:
www.altaposten.no...

Another Norwegian article here:
www.tv2nyhetene.no...

[edit on 9 Dec 2009 by Hellmutt]


I want to say it's a rocket, but I can't get it past my head that the spiral that was lighted and going strong in a circle, was a rocket. The size of the lighted spiral not the contrail had a look of something big, and if it was a big rocket or even a small one mind you, the rocket structure itself couldn't handle the G forces from the maneuver on top of the speed (rockets can go many multiples the speed of sound). And it would break apart and we would have seen a cascade of falling embers, we didn't. Also if you seen the spiral, I know no rocket that could make turns that tight and that clean with the technology we have today. The first thing that I thought it may have been without looking at the spiral but the hole opening in the sky, I thought somebody launched and detonated a small nuke mid air. We would have known big time, also is it being reported that there was any sound when this was observed.



posted on Dec, 10 2009 @ 12:41 AM
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o.k. some facts there. They have slid down the rungs of the military department, maybe they're rusty... heh



posted on Dec, 10 2009 @ 12:43 AM
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Originally posted by AshOnMyTomatoes

Originally posted by mrkurns
Nobody seems to be mentioning that witnesses have described this as a "sphere" and a "glowing ball" and not flat. This also explains why the spiral appears to be directly facing the camera in every photo.

I don't think a rocket can account for a spherical spiral?
It can account for a spherical spiral better even than a flat spiral.

If you imagine that this launch came from a very long distance from the photos' vantage point, and that the rocket probably entered Earth's upper atmosphere or even space, you begin to see that the scale isn't a problem. If the rocket was a test of an ICBM, it would have had a fair amount of unspent fuel as it reached the upper atmosphere, because it still would have a long way to go. So it's guidance goes haywire somewhere close to the horizon in that photo that's been labeled above, it starts into a spiral but it is still moving along its trajectory. Meanwhile, a fuel leakage (or hell, even a condensation trail) begins, and as the rocket spirals onward through its ballistic arc, the cloud gets sprayed out and slowly continues to move outward from the rocket. This continues until the rocket finishes its current burn stage, or runs out of fuel, or explodes, at which point the light of the thruster vanishes, the cloud glows only from the light of the sun over the horizon, and the last new part of the spiral cloud slowly expand outward like the rest of it, resulting in the dark "hole."

The entire thing is most likely extremely three dimensional, but most of the photos taken are from near head on, and from a great distance from the rocket's origin, so the spirals appear to have all been in one plane.


Does the perfect symetry of the spirals not bother you, or suggest that there was more than a rocket at work here?

I think we can all agree that a rocket or missile came into play here. but the question is, what caused the spiral, be it a sphere or on a plane? What caused such a perfect spiral that held together better than the exhaust trail did?



posted on Dec, 10 2009 @ 12:45 AM
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Originally posted by hoghead cheese

Originally posted by Hellmutt
Less than two hours ago, this phenomena was observed over northern Norway. No one knows what is is. Do you have any idea on what it might be? If so, let us hear about it.



Photo: Odd Magne Haugen


Google translated article


In the morning rush hour, at 07.47, showed the special phenomenon in the sky. It is described as a glowing ball in the sky, which rotated and "thrown out" luminous rings. The phenomenon grew rapidly in a spiral, with bright white rings towards the edges and blue, bright rings in the center. Spiral grew steadily larger, until it eventually was significantly greater than both the moon and other things it will be normal to find in the sky.

"Spiral" also walked across the sky, leaving a bright blue track.

[---]

The whole thing lasted just under one minute and then spiral in the sky collapsed, leaving it in a dark, circular "hole" in the night sky.


Photo: Jan Erik Steine


More pictures here: www.altaposten.no...


Direct link to the article in Norwegian here:
www.altaposten.no...

Another Norwegian article here:
www.tv2nyhetene.no...

[edit on 9 Dec 2009 by Hellmutt]


I want to say it's a rocket, but I can't get it past my head that the spiral that was lighted and going strong in a circle, was a rocket. The size of the lighted spiral not the contrail had a look of something big, and if it was a big rocket or even a small one mind you, the rocket structure itself couldn't handle the G forces from the maneuver on top of the speed (rockets can go many multiples the speed of sound). And it would break apart and we would have seen a cascade of falling embers, we didn't. Also if you seen the spiral, I know no rocket that could make turns that tight and that clean with the technology we have today. The first thing that I thought it may have been without looking at the spiral but the hole opening in the sky, I thought somebody launched and detonated a small nuke mid air. We would have known big time, also is it being reported that there was any sound when this was observed.


And then yeah exactly, missiles fracture and break apart on a failed flight...



posted on Dec, 10 2009 @ 12:48 AM
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Originally posted by Nyhee
I think we can all agree that a rocket or missile came into play here. but the question is, what caused the spiral, be it a sphere or on a plane? What caused such a perfect spiral that held together better than the exhaust trail did?


It occurred outside the atmosphere.



posted on Dec, 10 2009 @ 12:48 AM
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And I'm leaning towards a missile now, because I do see a launch trajectory, that is one weird spirial though.

That smoke trail coming from the ground though pretty much makes this a missile launch failure...




Now the next step is, maybe they need to put that missile shield in place after all...



[edit on 12/10/2009 by Brainiac]



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