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Originally posted by Mak Manto
Ron Paul's a hypocrite if he believes that Obama's doing a perpetual war.
Obama wants to exit Iraq and focus on Afghanistan and getting the terrorists.
And the last time I checked, Ron Paul voted for the authorization for use of military force against terrorists in Afghanistan.
He's not going to get brownie points with the voting public just by putting down Obama...
Obama wants to exit Iraq and focus on Afghanistan and getting the terrorists.
Originally posted by David9176
reply to post by Mak Manto
Obama wants to exit Iraq and focus on Afghanistan and getting the terrorists.
Did you not hear Obama talk about Pakistan last night? That's where he'll go after Afghanistan. Then you have Iran. It's not going to end.
Don't kid yourself. If they really wanted to end this they pull out or do a massive increase in troops. They do neither. Instead it's half ass support which will do nothing but increase anger towards our country, end the lives of 1000's more soldiers when it could be avoided, and continue to be a huge sap on WHAT IS LEFT OF OUR ECONOMY.
Innocent people have died on his watch just as it did on Bush. In fact, Obama has played more rounds of golf than Bush did in his first 3 years. We have over 17 percent "real" unemployment, and 8 year war with no end in sight, and a debt that will eventually cripple us even more.
The middle class can not absorb all of this any longer.
[edit on 2-12-2009 by David9176]
Originally posted by ModernAcademia
reply to post by Mak Manto
dude you clearly have your blindfolds on
do you know who america was supporting before when the soviets invaded afghanistan?
do you know who bin laden used to work for?
Originally posted by Mak Manto
So, Academia, we need to stop the terrorists. Because, I'll tell you, leaving the war doesn't stop them from attacking us. They'll continue to attack. The bombing of our embassies, the killing of American civilians in foreign countries, and the possible attack on our own homeland.
Originally posted by ModernAcademia
Originally posted by Mak Manto
So, Academia, we need to stop the terrorists. Because, I'll tell you, leaving the war doesn't stop them from attacking us. They'll continue to attack. The bombing of our embassies, the killing of American civilians in foreign countries, and the possible attack on our own homeland.
if you want to stop the terroists then don't encourage it
that's the best way to stop terroism
tell me something first and foremost
Why are they attacking you?
Why?
Answer me this
Originally posted by Mak Manto
According to the terrorists, and Bin Laden himself, he justified the killings of Americans because Muslims were being persecuted, and America was one of the persecutors, and "persecution is worse than killing."
Originally posted by Mak Manto
You tell me now; are we persecuting Muslims?
Originally posted by Mak Manto
Do you want to leave the Middle East and go back to isolationism?
Huge embassies in almost every muslim country War against Afghanistan, War against Iraq, War against Pakistan and soon war against Iran and Syria and we paid for the War on Lebanon.
We installed puppet govts in Iran in 53 to which Obama acknowledged, a puppet military dictator in Pakistan(mussaraf) and a puppet govt. in Afghanistan(Karzai).
A military base in Saudi Arabia which they consider their holy land How do you think catholics would respond if muslims put a military base in vatican city?
If America practiced non-intervention then we would go back to the days when America is a beloved country all throughout the globe.
Go to Europe bro, there's so much anti-Americanism there too you have no idea.
Originally posted by Mak Manto
You have to stop bringing up the past; it happened. There is nothing we can to do change the past. We can change the future, though. You're like a broken record, Academic.
Originally posted by Mak Manto
And your point is moot, Academia. There are military bases in Italy. I don't see any military bases in Mecca, which is the Islamic holy city.
Originally posted by Mak Manto
I don't see Europe attacking us, though, do you? It's called free speech, Academia, unless you're against that.
Originally posted by Mak Manto
Besides, what's your plan when Al-Qaeda strikes back at us and if they're in another country?
You don't have a plan, that's the point.