26% of americans believe Obama stole 08' elections, page 1
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Topic started on 23-11-2009 @ 03:16 AM by Southern Guardian
Yep folks, 26% of americans think Obama stole the 2008 elections:
www.publicpolicypolling.com...

52% of Republicans think so to be precise:
www.alternet.org...

I have actually been looking for a thread on this topic but could not find one. There are a range of reasons why these fellas (and many fellow ATSers here) feel so. In part its the birther conspiracy where Obama is supposedly Kenyan born, making him unconstitutionally elected as president. Another part of this belief is that he stole the 2008 elections in cooperation with "Acorn". If theres other reasons as well please let me know.

I can't say im surprised at this result.... by 2007 the majority of Republicans were still supporting the Iraq war and the official reasoning from Bush. The polling in Texas as to whether Obama was muslim came to 23%. Polls are not the most accurate sources of information, but they do guide to somewhat of a consensus. These results are rather interesting, as this is the assumption that acorn somehow managed to bring in those 7 million votes.... and yet in the 2000 elections with 4000 votes in issue between Gore and Bush, somehow this was a very legit win for Bush by the view of conservatives.... it does show you this is most likely partisan differences showing up again.

I'd assume that here on ATS most folks would bank on the Obama Kenyan conspiracy to argue why he committed voter fraud. Should be an interesting discussion as usual.

SG


reply posted on 23-11-2009 @ 03:36 AM by chrisd250
reply to post by Southern Guardian



it's not "stolen" if this was all orchestrated before hand. who's to say each president is'nt picked by the nsa or cia years in advance? perhaps they are chosen since childhood to serve an agenda, and are briefed periodically as to what to accomplish and what to move towards. if that theory is correct, it's not that he stole it, it's that he is the one who the REAL people in control wanted as their puppet.


reply posted on 23-11-2009 @ 08:49 AM by lpowell0627
I don't think "stole" is really the appropriate term.

Prior to the selection of each party's candidates, I could tell you that a Republican was not going to get into office. So, the election was really between Hillary and Obama from the start. As for electing an Independant or any other minor poltical party's candidate... 2012 will be the best chance of winning that they've had. As more and more people watch the republicans send us to war and the democrats increase spending to provide for those "less fortunate" -- especially when those of us considered "fortunate" are having trouble making ends meet -- people will begin looking for an alternate platform from which to run the country. People are tired of war and people are becoming increasingly apprehensive about growing government to unprecedented levels.

As far as electing a woman over an African-American man...I don't think society is there yet. I felt the election was more about whether society had progressed to accepting a woman in charge over a man.

Although I am not a Hillary supporter, I was slightly surprised by the fact that people were not swayed by the notion that it was a way to have Bill Clinton as President yet again.

There are many questions regarding Obama's sudden rise to POTUS -- but I don't think it amounts to theft.

More likely it amounts to the realization that the media, and the media alone, is the actual entity that chooses our next leader. And let's face it -- Obama has the recipe for good media fodder.

Interracial marriage between his parents, a less fortunate childhood (although I have trouble with this one considering his education and wordly travels), estranged siblings from all aspects of the globe, first African-American president, a once rocky marriage that was saved for the sake of the children, a former drug user that quickly realized the error of his ways, a charismatic speaker capable of playing into the most unrealtistic of Americans' dreams, and the intelligence to be able to circumvent every promise with the promise of more.

To me, it sounded like the perfect character to what has become a media frenzied soap opera.


reply posted on 23-11-2009 @ 09:43 AM by marg6043
reply to post by Southern Guardian



The elections were fair the popularity speaks for itself, now I am no so sure about the elections of 2000 when the supreme court and Florida decided the president.

Obama was not even near that type of incident with the elections.


reply posted on 23-11-2009 @ 04:58 PM by ticklemonster
Obama's face in 1993 Movie release?

The Movie "True Romance" that was released in 1993 seems to have a subtle undertone.

If you watch the part of the movie where they are at Kings Island and also the Hotel room scene afterward the movie seems to go along to the song "Come Together" by the Beatles.

The lyrics go like this (4th refrain)

He's got Roller Coaster,
He's got Early Warning,
He's got muddy water,
He's one Mojo Filter,
He say 1 & 1 & 1 are 3.
Got to be good lookin' cause he's so hard to see,
Come Together, Right Now, over me.

Just take a Look at the Theme Park Charicature on their boys shirt in the Hotel Scene after the one at Kings Island.

Then watch NBC's coverage of the Barack Obama Inauguration and listen close to everything the commentator says "Looks like its too late to bite the hand that feeds you", and later on after his daughters take their assigned places in the audience "Looks like some sort of Fun House Mirror Effect"

& ask yourself, why if they knew where the daughters would be sitting on that important day would they set up the cameras so that one face is smeared behind protective glass, and the older daughters head is showing with the glare set up between them?

And the commentator would say exactly what he was supposed too.
These are people who control and abuse the lives of children for entertainment, and I wouldn't put them in charge of a fish tank.

So yes, it seems like he was chosen a long time ago and at a young age for that position by whomever.

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