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Originally posted by JayinAR
reply to post by Rawhemp
Well sure, but even nonrefined sugar is bad if you take in too much of it. And taking in too much is very easy to do.
A single slice of wonderbread contains all the sugar you should require in a single day, unless I'm mistaken.
Originally posted by Applesandoranges
rawhemp may i ask what type of raw lifestyle you adhere to? Fruitarianism, raw vegan, paleolithic etc? Just curious.
No offence to you rawhemp but i never come across a raw foodist who gets abit arsenal with nutrition, we should not bash our uninformed friends here. I feel the best way to get the word across is with more kindness and less bashing of food habits.
Originally posted by JayinAR
The comparisons are pretty clear in my eyes.
The link I gave in the thread-opener should lead you to many articles written by the same men in which they analyze the diets of people the world around who live to great ages in wonderful health.
None of the people in these cultures are vegans.
Not saying that there is anything wrong with being a vegan, or a rawfoodist, or what have you.
All I'm saying is that there is a common blueprint for long life.
It was outlined in the foods I gave in the initial post of this thread.
"If you don't have 3-4 bowel movements a day you are unhealthy"
"If you don't ever get sick you are unhealthy"
Have a good one, guys.
The Hunza people live in the Kashmir Valley and are known for their extreme longevity. They live up to 120 or 140 years of age and the main cause of death is old age or diseases or poverty; not degenerative disease like in the West. Their diet contains extremely few animal products. Animal products contain saturated fat and are directly implicated in a variety of diseases which shorten the life span (osteoporosis, cancer, gout, kidney stones and kidney diseases, rheumatoid arthritis, heart disease, colon diseases to name just a few). Also, eating meat raises blood cholesterol and blood albumin and the higher these two are, the higher the risk of heart disease, cancer, diabetes etc.
The traditional Hunza diet, on which The Essential Oil Cookbook is based, consists of unprocessed whole foods rich in fiber; 40% calories from whole grains, 30% calories from vegeables, 15% from fruits, 10% beans, 4% nuts/seeds and only 1% from animal products. The Hunzas ate 80% of their vegetables and 100% of their fruit raw. They consumed 10-15% of total calories from fat and were never obese. Theirs was a low fat diet. These people did not need a weight-loss program - they already had it!
Originally posted by Rawhemp
Originally posted by Applesandoranges
rawhemp may i ask what type of raw lifestyle you adhere to? Fruitarianism, raw vegan, paleolithic etc? Just curious.
No offence to you rawhemp but i never come across a raw foodist who gets abit arsenal with nutrition, we should not bash our uninformed friends here. I feel the best way to get the word across is with more kindness and less bashing of food habits.
I follow 80/10/10 but more like 90/5/5, not bashing anyone by the way just stating facts
What Do They Eat?:
Vegetables picked fresh from the garden, eaten the same day. They also eat fruits right off the trees. Whole grains, seeds and nuts are also part of the Vilcabamba diet. There are almost no animal products to be found in their diet and no packaged or preprepared food.
Do They Exercise?:
There is nothing like exercise as we know it in the Vilcabamba culture -- their daily lives are filled with hiking up the slopes to harvest foods, cleaning, cultivating vegetables and picking fruits. There is no such thing as formal exercise, but rather a life full of activity.
How Are the Elderly Treated?:
Wonderfully. Aging is seen as a grace and people are given more respect as they grow older. It is said that the Vilcabamba actually look forward to getting old, to become more mature and growing as a person.
The main food of the Bama people is yellow corn, beans, potatoes, vegetables and the oil produced from tea-oil trees. These plants and food have many trace elements and more vitamins, carotene, and minteral elements than the plants produced in other places. Probabley that's one of the reasons for people's long lives.
n the “Ringing Cedar Series” of books, by Vladimir Megrè, Anastasia stated: "Every seed you plant contains within itself an enormous amount of information about the Universe….. Through the help of this data the seed knows the exact time……. when it is to come alive, grow - what juices it is to take from the Earth, how to make use of the rays of the celestial bodies the Sun, Moon and stars, what it is to grow into, what fruit to bring forth. These fruits are designed to sustain Man's life. More powerfully and effectively than any manufactured drugs of the present or future, these fruits are capable of counteracting and withstanding any disease of the human body. But to this end the seed must know about the human condition. So that during the maturation process it can satiate its fruit with the right correlation of substances to heal a specific individual of his disease, if indeed he has it or is prone to it.” Chapter 11 Book 1
Originally posted by Rawhemp
reply to post by mopusvindictus
I have no agenda, anyone can see by your pic that your not the picture of health. Good luck doing on iron man on the atkins diet, you can talk all you want but its just that talk. Your picture doesn't show much but you clearly look over weight.
My dad who is 54 and eats a bunch of bull# cooked food looks healthier then you.
Eating veggies won't do #, but a diet of fruits, vegetables and a healthy exercise routine will make anyone a rock star..
[edit on 16-11-2009 by Rawhemp]
Originally posted by JayinAR
reply to post by Rawhemp
Apparently the fish part of the diet is something you guys disagree with.
Originally posted by JayinAR
reply to post by Rawhemp
You and that other have an agenda that glares through.
I tried to correspond to any willing listeners a diet that will allow them to live a healthy and long life.
Apparently the fish part of the diet is something you guys disagree with.
You both go on to ridicule someone who responds to this thread suggesting that you can do with even more than that, only if consumed in moderation.
Whatever you wish, but I would rather continue the discussion without your input.
And the troll you brought with you. If you don't mind.