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reply posted on 11-11-2009 @ 11:07 AM by mrmonsoon
I also found this:

Beginning January 1, 2010, JPMorgan Chase Bank, N.A. will no longer participate in the FDIC's Transaction Account Guarantee Program. As a result, after December 31, 2009, funds held in non-interest bearing transaction accounts* and IOLTA, IOLA and IOTA accounts will no longer be guaranteed in full under the Transaction Account Guarantee Program. However, these accounts will be insured up to $250,000 per depositor under the FDIC's general deposit rules.

The standard insurance amount of $250,000 per depositor is in effect through December 31, 2013. On January 1, 2014, the standard insurance amount will return to $100,000 per depositor for all account categories except IRAs and certain other retirement accounts, which will remain at $250,000 per depositor. See a banker for more information.
Chase

The link is to their online banking webpage. It clearly states what I said above.



Is Chase participating in the FDIC's Transaction Account Guarantee Program?
Beginning January 1, 2010, JPMorgan Chase Bank, N.A. will no longer participate in the FDIC's Transaction Account Guarantee Program. As a result, after December 31, 2009, funds held in non-interest bearing transaction accounts* and IOLTA, IOLA and IOTA accounts will no longer be guaranteed in full under the Transaction Account Guarantee Program. However, these accounts will be insured up to $250,000 per depositor under the FDIC's general deposit rules.

The standard insurance amount of $250,000 per depositor is in effect through December 31, 2013. On January 1, 2014, the standard insurance amount will return to $100,000 per depositor for all account categories except IRAs and certain other retirement accounts, which will remain at $250,000 per depositor. See a banker for more information.

*Including certain checking with interest (NOW) accounts.
In addition, most interest bearing checking accounts are also covered.

Chase and FDIC coverage


I now have found confirming data and from all places, on Chases website.


reply posted on 11-11-2009 @ 11:12 AM by Crakeur
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they're still insured up to $250k.

This might be a result of the FDIC's September memo stating they were on the verge of insolvency and possibly in need of a special assessment to remain operational.

www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Either the banks aren't willing to pay the special assessment or they don't have faith in the FDIC lasting and, therefore, don't see the point in paying them for insurance they won't be able to provide.

not very comforting.



reply posted on 11-11-2009 @ 11:17 AM by mrmonsoon
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Please red the quotes, they are stopping in 2010.

s "Chase participating in the FDIC's Transaction Account Guarantee Program?
Beginning January 1, 2010, JPMorgan Chase Bank, N.A. will no longer participate in the FDIC's Transaction Account Guarantee Program. As a result, after December 31, 2009, funds held in non-interest bearing transaction accounts* and IOLTA, IOLA and IOTA accounts will no longer be guaranteed in full under the Transaction Account Guarantee Program. However, these accounts will be insured up to $250,000 per depositor under the FDIC's general deposit rules. "

Chases own website says they are stopping participating in FDIC.

Please go to the links and read for yourself

OR

Please present evidence that my links are mistaken-remember, they are directly from chases online banking site.


reply posted on 11-11-2009 @ 11:40 AM by Seiko
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Either the banks aren't willing to pay the special assessment or they don't have faith in the FDIC lasting and, therefore, don't see the point in paying them for insurance they won't be able to provide.


This is what bothers me about this.

The road may be bumpy ahead, but if this sets us back to a standardized value system it might be worth it.


reply posted on 11-11-2009 @ 01:59 PM by nikiano
Originally posted by fraterormus

However, it could also very well be an attempt on the part of various Banks to evade Federal scrutiny of business practices.

The Banks thus far mentioned are Fee-based Banks. These are Banks whose primary profits are from nickel-and-diming people into oblivion with charge after charge after charge. Fee-based Banks are the ones to have caught the attention of Congress for their predatory practices.

If a Bank doesn't participate in voluntary Federal programs, they can claim Privacy and Trade Secrets to shelter their potentially unethical business practices to protect themselves from the scrutiny of Regulators.

To me, this isn't a bad sign about the FDIC as much as it is a sign that the Banks are determined to make a profit off of consumers at any cost.


That's exactly what I was thinking....they want to be free of the FDIC rules and regulations.

Does FDIC have a list of rules and regulations for their banks?

From what I undetstand, we're already starting to see the beginning of some very unscrupulous banking and credit card fees on the part of banks. Citibank is a big issuer of credit cards, so my guess is that they will be able to get by with even more than they are doing now if they aren't FDIC insured. JPMorgan Chase is also a big issuer of credit cards, and they also do a lot of car loans, etc...

My guess is that if they opt out of the FDIC, they'll be able to charge fees out the whazoo for any little thing, and get by with doing a lot of semi-unethical "gray area" banking area practices that they couldn't do before.

I don't know much about banking, but that's just the first thing that came to my mind.

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