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reply posted on 19-5-2004 @ 08:55 PM by IMMORTAL
Originally posted by US.SecretService
But, when you say that it doesn't matter who is voted into office, I personally feel that it does, because what if the President (I'm assuming that he actually has any power here ) didn't go along with their agenda? Would they just kill him? Impeach Him? This is a good question to be asking, what if the president doesn't agree with them?

Thanks,
Matt
Well, currently, the 2 most possible candidates for the upcoming Presidency are G. W. Bush and John Kerry. Both of these individuals are members of an secret society called the Skull and Bones. All these secret societies like the Skull and Bones belong to the network that make up the Illuminati. Is it going to matter which candidate you vote for?--Here is a quote from a webpage:


In researching her book, Robbins interviewed more than 100 members of Skull and Bones. She inquired about which candidate the secret society would rather have in the White House.

"I asked many Bonesmen that question," she recalled. "The sincere answer to me was, 'We don't care -- it's a win-win situation.' "


That quote is taken from here: prisonplanet.com

If the President doesn't agree with his superiors, then he gets neutralized.

As an example, take the assassination of JFK. If the Illuminati didn't like how JFK was performing his job, so they got rid of him. Here is a quote from a webpage:


it was an occult ritual known as the "Killing of the Divine King" designed as part of an alchemical plan to usher in a New World Order.


That is taken from this webpage, a short read:

parascope.com

In my opinion, it will not matter who comes into office.


reply posted on 19-5-2004 @ 09:30 PM by DipSchnit
Originally posted by US.SecretService
I don't think that the Illuminati, or any other secret group is behind the attrocities that are happening in the world besides the face that our world leaders (George Bush, Tony Blair...ect) are, for the most part, morons.

Also, if they control the President, the President controls the millitary, so then why would they need to hide from anything?

Matt




I would have to dissagree with you on this. The reason they still hide is because they are still afraid of the outcome if their plans were revealed to all. True, half of us would be in disbelief(the ignorant ones) and the other half would fight and resist. Can you imagine the destruction that half of the U.S.'s population is capable of in the mist of a resistance? They arent prepared for this type of resistance yet. Thats why everything is all about trying to get you to trust the government so they can get you while your gaurd is down to reduce violence, and in hope that you wont realize the truth until its too late. Face the facts and truth............your government doesnt give 2 #es about you or me unless they need us for something. It has always been about the rich and powerful and always will be.

Something else to think about..........How come now days the armys biggest recruiting gimmeck is to offer college loans to recruits? Why do they feel that they need to buy a military because I can tell you........it aint from the kindness of their heart?

When people that fight and join the forces because they believe in their country and fight from the heart stop joining, that should tell you something!
If they were still joining then the government wouldnt be trying to buy people to fight for a country that doesnt care.

not to offend, just my 2 cents worth


reply posted on 26-6-2004 @ 11:47 PM by Masonic Light
Originally posted by IMMORTAL
Okay, yes, let's say that the Illuminati per se, as envisioned by Adam Weishaupt, does not exist in name. Today, let's use the term Illuminati as an umbrella for groups like the Council on Foreign Relations, The Order of Skull and Bones, the Trilateral Commission, the Bilderbergers, and the Omega Agency. So, this means that the Illuminati, as this term applies here, is in full force.


I would partially agree with that: i.e., that organizations composed of the wealthy elite have squelched the people’s power, and use it for their own selfish ends. It just bugs me to no end hearing these parasites referred to as “Illuminati”. They are not illuminated or enlightened in any way; calling them “illuminati” is akin to calling the Nazis “saints”.

I believe the New World Order, as known by the inner circles of the Illuminati, is a cultish idea. I believe that it is being brought into this world by those who are of the Occult. So, I'm saying that our world is heading into an Occult-ruled type world, a New World Order, as envisioned by these Occult Societies.


I am a member of numerous occult societies, and have studied and practiced Occultism for many years. On this, my friend, you’re way off the mark. The people whom you oppose, the wealthy elite who have usurped power, are the exact opposite of Occultists. They are materialists, and know God but Mammon, i.e., money. This is diametrically opposed to spiritual disciplines, especially those of an occult nature, which emphasize selflessness and service to fellow men.

Many of these people claim to be “spiritual” or “religious”, but it is only smoke and mirrors, an attempt to gain the support of those of the masses who are spiritual or religious. These people’s claims cannot be taken at face value.

As I learn about the Illuminati, as an umbrella term, I am beginning to see their 'language', or symbology all over the place. For example, the famed pyramid, obelisk, the all seeing eye, etc. Our world is in the hands of Occult oriented Eilitists.


Our world is indeed in the hands of elitists. But “occult elitist” is an oxymoron; it simply cannot exist. Western Occult Doctrine is firmly based on the mysteries and mysticism of the Orient, the major being esoteric Buddhism, Taoism, and Qabalah. The eastern mystical doctrines of “no separate existence” have given form to the “Brotherhood of Man”, as accepted in the Western Occult Mystery Schools. There can be no elitism in Brotherhood, nor in true spirituality.

Fiat Lvx.

[edit on 26-6-2004 by Masonic Light]


reply posted on 27-6-2004 @ 05:47 PM by RX84
just read this it should help you with what you are going on about i think www.hourofthetime.com...


I read this once too, and it made me think. But in the end, it prooved to be fake. He simply didn't provide any evidence. Besides, he was one of the militia types, defending his beloved weapons.

There is no proof that Illuminati exist. What I have heard about the Illuminati, they turn out to be rather good than evil. They opposed the corrupt Church power when they did exist, back in the 18th century.

Symbols? Signs? What signs? What symbols? Where? How do you know that the eye in the pyramid is a sign of the Illuminati? Obelisk? I've spotted two in my own city. Not much of a big deal here.

Now, could it possibly be that people in America are more paranoid than people in Europe? Possibly. I've spotted only one Swedish site that's about Illuminati, and it turned out to be a direct translation of an English conspiracy site. How many times have I seen anything about the Illuminati, Roswell, MJ-12, Freemasons, CFR or even the Bilderberg on TV, radio or in any magazine or newspaper written here in Sweden? None.
How many times have I heard talks about our government being corrupt or taking orders from someone above? None.
How many times have I heard people talking about these things? None.

Do we have UFO's? Sure we do, but many of those have been debunked. Others have good theories on what they actually are.

So it seems like while people are more open about these things in America, people here in Sweden simply don't care. Why? Because most of us here want to have sources. We want to know who started these things. Proof, simple and sound.

Maybe most people here have it better than in other places on earth? Well, may be, but we also have the highest taxes in the world, and still, no one says anything about any conspiracy.

It is this thing that puzles me. While people in America say these things, we don't hear anything about it from places like Sweden, Russia, Australia, Finland, Norway, France etc.

It simply seems that only America is affected by this conspiracy. When there is a conspiracy on the scale of "the Illuminati", and when they actually will start to take over, then I believe we will hear about these things a lot.

And it all comes down to proof. To the question if there really are an Illuminati, watching on us, planning.

What I do believe, and many people around the world do too, is that corporations have power. They have money. General corruption. Making money out of poor children in Africa. Pollution. Genocide in front of our eyes. That's making money. That's NWO.
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