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Alien Abduction to Enlightenment?


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Topic started on 31-10-2009 @ 10:23 PM by StopComplaining


This is an abreviated excert from the DSM IV Spiritual and Religous Problem.

Therapists acknowledge the growth potential in [Alien Abductions].
[An Alien Abduction] points to new possibilities for the client that are
… superior to their prior functioning… [and] new realms of the psyche to
which they have been opened.

(DSM-IV Religious and Spiritual Problems: LESSON 3.9 Alien Encounters page 67.)

Thank God Jesus is my Way, my Truth and my Light, and his way doesn't require Anal probes.



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reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 03:24 PM by trey85


Dont have a clue of what your trying to say here?



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reply posted on 1-11-2009 @ 04:10 PM by StopComplaining


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Well the "Common Sense" of the DSM IV is trying to tell you to get abducted by aliens or boiled in a kettle.

I am trying to tell you to accept Jesus Christ As lord and saviour instead.

[edit on 1-11-2009 by StopComplaining]



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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 03:46 PM by StopComplaining


Here is a good thread to understand my veiw point. UFO phenomenon is demonic and now Pharmakia/sorcery agents in our society are ligitimizing the demonic as therapy.

www.abovetopsecret.com...



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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 04:38 PM by Melyanna Tengwesta


Originally posted by StopComplaining
This is an abreviated excert from the DSM IV Spiritual and Religous Problem.

Therapists acknowledge the growth potential in [Alien Abductions].
[An Alien Abduction] points to new possibilities for the client that are
… superior to their prior functioning… [and] new realms of the psyche to
which they have been opened.

(DSM-IV Religious and Spiritual Problems: LESSON 3.9 Alien Encounters page 67.)

Thank God Jesus is my Way, my Truth and my Light, and his way doesn't require Anal probes.



Did Jesus really die for you? (lyrics of a song )

A therapist I had an encounter with some yrs ago, said there is NO GOD and people should take their own responsibility in life instead of blaming life in general or others for our own misconceptions .......

I was partially raised a Christian, have met 'GOD' when I was in coma, so that news was quite shocking for me.

I've never seen an alien but saw an UFO, 2 times in my life .....

Now it came to this point: I believe ALL of humanity is suffering a severe case of DSM - V, don't you think?

Light & Love!



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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 07:40 PM by Tomis_Nexis


So in your opinion, something we don't yet understand (aliens, beings from another world, life outside Earth) must be categorized as "Evil" in some way? Pathetic


God bless science, and the miracles that come with it.


[edit on 3-11-2009 by Tomis_Nexis]



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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 11:04 PM by StopComplaining


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So in your opinion any opinion must be correct if it is given the mantle of being scholarly?



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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 11:06 PM by StopComplaining


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I don't have to be anal probed and I don't have to half die either.



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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 11:15 PM by Skeptical Ed


Originally posted by StopComplaining
reply to post by trey85



Well the "Common Sense" of the DSM IV is trying to tell you to get abducted by aliens or boiled in a kettle.

I am trying to tell you to accept Jesus Christ As lord and saviour instead.

[edit on 1-11-2009 by StopComplaining]


How about you don't proselytize?


[edit on 3-11-2009 by Skeptical Ed]



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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 11:27 PM by timlumber


Alot of you say YOu met God, but did you? I did! And he is in the flesh. God is not of human decent. God does exist, that is why I need to get my story out!



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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 11:32 PM by zaiger



The clinical approach developed at PEER involves being able to tolerate not knowing about the reality status of the experience, while paying attention to the feelings and struggles of the person involved. PEER also uses a combination of hypnosis and a breathing technique as treatment in helping the abductees confront and move through the terrifying memories of the experiences.

Therapists also need to be sensitive to and acknowledge the growth potential in such extraordinary experiences. That speaks to the need to avoid judging the reported phenomena by the standards of normal awareness; rather, therapists should consider whether this unusual experience points to new possibilities for the client that are alternatives to or even superior to their prior functioning. As with other forms of spiritual emergency, therapy with alien abductees involves the integration of spiritual issues raised by the experience. The therapist's role is helping experients learn

what meaning these experiences have for them, and in what reality they hold the experiences. We are very clear in our work with them that we can never say for certain what these experiences are. This is a mystery. But they need to integrate and understand how to bring their experiences into their world.

PEER operates a clinic in the Boston area for both treatment and research. Clients are allowed to return as often as needed to integrate their experiences and obtain suppport while living in a society that does not recognize the vast new realms of the psyche to which they have been opened.


That is what it says. It actually says a lot more but summing it up in 1 hacked paragraph is kind of misleading.



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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 11:33 PM by Seventhdoor


Well unless you've been personally abducted by aliens how do you know they probe you? Even if you were, how do you know all aliens probe?

Lots of assumptions here based on little but superstition from what I can tell.



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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 11:35 PM by timlumber


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How did you meet God while in a Coma? I met him in 2000. God is not human decent nor is he in spirit mode either. When YOU meet God you will know it! I can describe him, and if I can get hypnosis I can give the cure to AIDS, for I asked that question.



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reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 02:12 AM by StopComplaining


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Personally I think their means of diluting what they are saying in subtle vague non-decisive terminology is misleading. Be hot or cold let your Yay be Yay and your Nay be Nay is how Jesus instructs us to be.



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reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 02:15 AM by StopComplaining


Originally posted by timlumber
reply to post by Melyanna Tengwesta

How did you meet God while in a Coma? I met him in 2000. God is not human decent nor is he in spirit mode either. When YOU meet God you will know it! I can describe him, and if I can get hypnosis I can give the cure to AIDS, for I asked that question.




Are you going to tell us God is an Alien?

Are you trying to tell us that God told you something and then made you forget and then requires Hynosis to be proformed in order to tell you again?

What ever your experiencing it is Demonic.



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reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 02:16 AM by StopComplaining


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By the By God did not Descend from anything or anyone.



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reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 02:23 AM by StopComplaining


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Everybody proselytizes including the DSM-IV, some overtly and some by subtlety.

John 10:1 "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber."



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reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 02:27 AM by paraclete1


I'm not familar with DSM IV Spiritual and Religous Problem. What does DSM IV stand for?



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reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 10:13 AM by workerB











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reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 10:49 AM by draknoir2


Originally posted by Skeptical Ed
Originally posted by StopComplaining
reply to post by trey85



Well the "Common Sense" of the DSM IV is trying to tell you to get abducted by aliens or boiled in a kettle.

I am trying to tell you to accept Jesus Christ As lord and saviour instead.

[edit on 1-11-2009 by StopComplaining]


How about you don't proselytize?


[edit on 3-11-2009 by Skeptical Ed]


One of many personal belief systems being proselytized in this section... just happens to be a more conventional one.


"You got your belief in my science!"

"You got your science in my belief!"

However, unlike Reese's peanut butter cups, these two flavors don't often mix well.



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