President AND Congress Engage In High Treason

The Population is aware, currently - the movement is working on a Constitutional Solution. this is the current thought process... please contribute, as this is our nation - not the bankers....

1. each office that will remain open, will be drafted for that office. as per need of the country. until democratic elections can be held, after 2 years.
2. the new drafted congress will instruct treasury to issue a new currency.
based on our current reserve assets based on gold-paper, silver-coin
3. all overseas military bases will be dismantled and equipment, shipped back to us shores. all subs, all ships return to closest US Port.
4. all law enforcement will be given a US Constitution, and a document that basically, tells them we pay their salary and if they wish to remain in Law Enforcement they will cease and deciss all illegal orders.
5. all citizens are encouraged to remain armed at all times, during the transition. as personal security can not be guaranteed during the transition.
6. all medical - fire - hospital - city services will be on emergency status.
7. one national bank will remain open, as the treasuries window.
8. all federal reserve notes will not be able to be converted to the new currency.
9. courts - jails - prisons will be on emergency lock down for 60 days.
10. all state and local governments will not be engaged unless they need be.
etc... etc...
Ron Paul - is deciding to run for president 2012 - rude awakening your drafted
Jesse Ventura - is gonna be drafted
Gerald Celente - is gonna be drafted
Dennis Kucinich? is gonna be drafted
***** Several, Newly elected members of the house\senate on a case by case basis, will remain in their elected seats.
any recommendations -- just post it - all good ideas are strongly encouraged to speak....


[edit on 30-10-2009 by Anti-Evil]

I nominate you to be tried along with any other traitors.
Or at least you and your family should go over there and peddle your crap in the caves and mosques. Maybe you could hand over your families fortune to them and feel good about it.
You could come back in one of Obama's propaganda boxes he is showcasing these days. Ba!

I, and most of the people I served and worked with, would much rather be thanked for feeding a family, than cursed for killing their family.

Of course, however I would rather feed starving people in Africa that aren't trying to kill me before I hand my tax dollars over to active insurgents who have "renounced" their evil ways.

After someone attempts to kill me, my generosity toward them is reduced significantly.

We aren't talking about feeding starving people here, we are talking about handing MY MONEY outright to insurgents, which is exactly the same as if the US government paid gang members to renounce their gang, paid murders not to murder, or paid child molesters not to molest childeren.

This is pure insanity.

Not only is it insane, its also high treason.

If you want to have those people love us again, then step one is getting the hell out of their country.

Step two is opening trade relations and allowing them to rebuild their country on their own terms.

If you spent time in Afghanistan, then you know that place is run by tribal leaders and is a completely piece-meal nation. Its not even a nation, its a huge band of tribal groups run by village elders. They decide if they will align their villages with the Taliban or not. Its not an elected government type system, however its not the US job to impose "democracy" across the globe on people who frankly don't want it and don't give a damn about it.

We need to get the hell out of there and stop wasting trillions of tax dollars and human lives attempting to install a puppet government run by drug pimps and warlords for the sake of an oil pipe line.

originally posted by mnemeth1

We need to get the hell out of there and stop wasting trillions of tax dollars and human lives attempting to install a puppet government run by drug pimps and warlords for the sake of an oil pipe line.

See, it took a while, but you and I are able to find common ground, on this, I agree with you 100%

reply to post by Georgehairybush


Maybe they are fresh out of Stingers.
The Ruskies didn't give them any I know of.
The AK was a superior weapon in the Nam.
For some reason I don't recall seeing dear old Osama with a M16 or other US firearm when he was on the payrole.

Originally posted by ProfEmeritus
Does this mean that the US policy"

WE don't negotiate with terrorists

is no longer in force?

OR:

This is not considered negotiation.

OR:

The Taliban are not considered terrorists.




What am I missing here?

This plan is from commander Cesar Millan of the civilian k-9 militia.

Think of obama as the "terrorist whisperer".

After reciting words written by the US .gov (renounce), the evil-doing terrorist is cleansed of all hate and ill intent.. its like a red, white and blue enema and douche of the soul. The terrorist is transformed from a growling enemy worthy of instant death, to a trusted & loyal tail wagging friend of freedom, apple pie, mom, and all that is good. Yes, obamas words are that powerful.

Once the terrorist recognizes uncle sam is the new pack leader, he is given a treat (US $$), and maybe a lifetime supply of Viagra.. plus a scratch behind the ear and a "gooood booooy!!"

The born-again freedom fighter will be taxed by the local authority who could be a bad dog who has yet to say obamas magic words, an un-renounce'er, warlord, taliban commander, or moog stooge.. so technically the US wont be directly funding the enemy.

Opportunists suckered the russians in the same way... and wouldn't you? if some big clumbsy empire was offering you cash money & goodies to do nothing.. and all you had to do was recite a script, why not? I'd think if it a my own personal way of bleeding the occupier while gathering intel for my brother and sister US citizens.

Keep your friends close, and you enemy's closer.

Originally posted by Donny 4 million




I nominate you to be tried along with any other traitors.
Or at least you and your family should go over there and peddle your crap in the caves and mosques. Maybe you could hand over your families fortune to them and feel good about it.
You could come back in one of Obama's propaganda boxes he is showcasing these days. Ba!

In all your splendid wisdom ---- could you at least put the original posters name in conjunction with the QUOTE YOU DETERMINED WAS EXCESSIVE?
Or is your intention to leave my contribution void of substance and the denial of IGNORANCE?

Originally posted by jtma508
Gen Petreus himself said that they did the same thing in the latter stages of the war in Iraq with great success. He contended that it was far more const effective to pay these people off than fight them. So maybe we should run his butt up the pole for treason, too, eh?

i love how the extremist right wingers have nothing to say to this, but star and flag the crap out of the op

to hell with facts, lets feel good about a false reality!

reply to post by Donny 4 million


Hey Donny, trying to figure out who you are responding to because the moderator removed that along with your quote. Thanks, man.

reply to post by GovtFlu

Opportunists suckered the russians in the same way... and wouldn't you? if some big clumbsy empire was offering you cash money & goodies to do nothing.. and all you had to do was recite a script, why not? I'd think if it a my own personal way of bleeding the occupier while gathering intel for my brother and sister US citizens.

Don't forget the main treat that they get- to keep harvesting those poppy plants, and selling the opium harvest, to continue to "do their thing". Maybe they'll even share some of the "fruits of their labor" with the CIA, so that fine organization can do its "good deeds" somewhere else in the world.

reply to post by ProfEmeritus


So the gist of what i gather after reading most of the replies in this thread is this:


Most of you don't have a problem spending money on killing people in this war

but you have a problem trying to buy them off to end the war so we don't have to kill them?

K

As long as we have that straight, i know where you stand.

Can't say as though i'm too impressed though, i expected better

Originally posted by really
reply to post by Donny 4 million

 

Hey Donny, trying to figure out who you are responding to because the moderator removed that along with your quote. Thanks, man.

Hey really,
It was rhetoric and his defence of the insanity, to pay opposition forces.
Strange stuff eh!

[edit on 31-10-2009 by Donny 4 million]

reply to post by Snarf

So the gist of what i gather after reading most of the replies in this thread is this: Most of you don't have a problem spending money on killing people in this war but you have a problem trying to buy them off to end the war so we don't have to kill them?

I'd like to know how you drew the conclusion that I don't have a problem spending money "on killing people in this war"? Can you point out in ANY of my 3 threads where I even hinted at that? No, you can't, and furthermore, I think being there now is a total waste of lives. When it comes to American lives, money doesn't even enter the equation.
However, you need to come up with a way to handle what will happen to women once the Taliban take over, since they will go back to being nothing more than slaves or "objects', devoid of even basic human rights.
Do YOU have no problem with THAT?

Originally posted by ProfEmeritus
reply to post by Snarf

 

So the gist of what i gather after reading most of the replies in this thread is this: Most of you don't have a problem spending money on killing people in this war but you have a problem trying to buy them off to end the war so we don't have to kill them?

I'd like to know how you drew the conclusion that I don't have a problem spending money "on killing people in this war"? Can you point out in ANY of my 3 threads where I even hinted at that? No, you can't, and furthermore, I think being there now is a total waste of lives. When it comes to American lives, money doesn't even enter the equation.
However, you need to come up with a way to handle what will happen to women once the Taliban take over, since they will go back to being nothing more than slaves or "objects', devoid of even basic human rights.
Do YOU have no problem with THAT?

Is there some where in your threads where you want to free all the women of Saudi Arabia?
Should the world attack them. Hey hows about we give the Saudi Harem ladies money instead. Come on Prof.

Originally posted by Snarf
reply to post by ProfEmeritus

 

So the gist of what i gather after reading most of the replies in this thread is this:


Most of you don't have a problem spending money on killing people in this war

but you have a problem trying to buy them off to end the war so we don't have to kill them?

K

As long as we have that straight, i know where you stand.

Can't say as though i'm too impressed though, i expected better

This will impress you!
If nobody was there chasing ghost this Hallow eve.
Nobody would have to pay or kill nobody. Impressed!
And all the dead folks from any side could come to your house for treats.