Chimpanzees' grief caught on camera in Cameroon, page 5
Pages: <<  2    3    4    5  >>
ATS Members have flagged this thread 85 times


reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 04:23 PM by nunya13
reply to post by Frogs



Oh wow, your post broke my heart! That's so sad, both cases. I think alot of people underestimate animals. They don't really know until they've seen them act out their emotions like you have.

My friends and family laughed at my boyfriend and I when we got ourselves a pet rat, Ada. They thought it ridiculous.

They have completely changed their minds and look forward to us letting her out of her cage because she is so full of personality and very playful. They absolutely love her and express their surprise at how different she is compared their previous notions of what a rat was like.


reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 04:40 PM by nunya13
reply to post by HolgerTheDane



My dad and step-mom have a particularly sassy kitty. She does the same thing. She'll let you pet her and she'll purr then just lose her mind and swat at you (thankfully, yet unfortunately at the same time, she is declawed).

Is the cat you have a Torty by any chance? I've noticed that those little black and orange fur balls have quite a temper.

Anyway, one time, I was living with them when I was 21 to get my crap straightened out and we were in a verbal argument. You know, a "I'm not a kid anymore!" and "You're under our roof, you'll live by our rules!" argument. We were yelling at eachother, they were seated at the table and I was standing in the doorway to the kitchen and I kept hearing Cinders (the kitty) growling behind me, but I ignored it for the most part. Next thing I know, the little devil growled, hissed, then bit my Achilles tendon (not hard, just a warning) as if she was upset I was fighting with my parents, her owners.

I totally reminded me of a dog that gets very protective of its owners and will growl at people they assume to be threatening them in some way. It was crazy, I had never seen a cat act like that before.


reply posted on 30-10-2009 @ 07:14 AM by Full_Vision
Originally posted by nunya13
reply to
post by HolgerTheDane



My dad and step-mom have a particularly sassy kitty. She does the same thing. She'll let you pet her and she'll purr then just lose her mind and swat at you (thankfully, yet unfortunately at the same time, she is declawed).

Is the cat you have a Torty by any chance? I've noticed that those little black and orange fur balls have quite a temper.

Anyway, one time, I was living with them when I was 21 to get my crap straightened out and we were in a verbal argument. You know, a "I'm not a kid anymore!" and "You're under our roof, you'll live by our rules!" argument. We were yelling at eachother, they were seated at the table and I was standing in the doorway to the kitchen and I kept hearing Cinders (the kitty) growling behind me, but I ignored it for the most part. Next thing I know, the little devil growled, hissed, then bit my Achilles tendon (not hard, just a warning) as if she was upset I was fighting with my parents, her owners.

I totally reminded me of a dog that gets very protective of its owners and will growl at people they assume to be threatening them in some way. It was crazy, I had never seen a cat act like that before.


This reminded me of the cat we recently lost.. anytime my partner and i would argue or i would be yelling she would come ver to me and start nipping at me wherever she could to get my attention to calm down.. i always thought that quite interesting as other cats i have had would simply leave the room lol


reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 03:58 PM by Confused and Dazed!
We had a dog that was a member of the family for 15 years. She was loved, and given every respect you would accord another human. She was never punished, scolded, or ignored. Not once.

She was absolutely devoted to us. She was funny, and intelligent. She was full of character. She let us know when she was ill, or hurt. She would lay next to you, waiting for you to wake up in the morning, and then be so happy and excited when you said "HI" to her. Sometimes, if she had to go "potty" she'd give you little nudges with her nose, to let you know, she needed to go out. Yet, she was so respectful, and gentle about it.
She was so unhappy, and let us know it, whenever we had to leave the house. She would watch and wait for our return, from her favorite chair in the living room window. One of her greatest joys, was going "Bye-Bye" or "for a ride". She loved to visit family members. She knew what Christmas and birthday presents were, and would open them with great excitement, to see what she got! She understood grocery bags, and knew one of them held her treats, and she'd look for them. Once we forgot, and she was very unhappy that her "nummies" weren't in there. It was all over her face.
( I made a special trip, that day, to go and get them )

When we talked to her, she'd pay attention, and look us in the eyes, shifted attention between those where speaking. She had command of understanding complex sentences, and questions.

She knew our moods, unhappiness, and when we had a head ache, for she'd stay close by. Watching! Coming to you, to check on you.

When she was dying of a brain tumor, she refused to go to sleep for three days. She held on, staying awake, little by little, getting weaker and weaker. She wouldn't eat, drink, or even go out side. She just wanted to be next to us. Finally, she looked at us, with her eyes wide open, tearing, and then she gave a small exhale, and relaxed, closed her eyes, and died in our arms.

We were crying as we lost her, and then held onto each other, as she lay next to us on the bed, gone forever. We lost our beloved little girl. She past on to whatever there is for animals once they die. We'd like to think, she went to some sort of animal heaven...because she deserved it.

She is laid to rest, in an animal cemetery.

How or why anyone could torment an animal, is beyond my comprehension.


reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 06:10 PM by Louwey
Originally posted by Confused and Dazed!
We had a dog that was a member of the family for 15 years. She was loved, and given every respect you would accord another human. She was never punished, scolded, or ignored. Not once.

She was absolutely devoted to us. She was funny, and intelligent. She was full of character. She let us know when she was ill, or hurt. She would lay next to you, waiting for you to wake up in the morning, and then be so happy and excited when you said "HI" to her. Sometimes, if she had to go "potty" she'd give you little nudges with her nose, to let you know, she needed to go out. Yet, she was so respectful, and gentle about it.
She was so unhappy, and let us know it, whenever we had to leave the house. She would watch and wait for our return, from her favorite chair in the living room window. One of her greatest joys, was going "Bye-Bye" or "for a ride". She loved to visit family members. She knew what Christmas and birthday presents were, and would open them with great excitement, to see what she got! She understood grocery bags, and knew one of them held her treats, and she'd look for them. Once we forgot, and she was very unhappy that her "nummies" weren't in there. It was all over her face.
( I made a special trip, that day, to go and get them )

When we talked to her, she'd pay attention, and look us in the eyes, shifted attention between those where speaking. She had command of understanding complex sentences, and questions.

She knew our moods, unhappiness, and when we had a head ache, for she'd stay close by. Watching! Coming to you, to check on you.

When she was dying of a brain tumor, she refused to go to sleep for three days. She held on, staying awake, little by little, getting weaker and weaker. She wouldn't eat, drink, or even go out side. She just wanted to be next to us. Finally, she looked at us, with her eyes wide open, tearing, and then she gave a small exhale, and relaxed, closed her eyes, and died in our arms.

We were crying as we lost her, and then held onto each other, as she lay next to us on the bed, gone forever. We lost our beloved little girl. She past on to whatever there is for animals once they die. We'd like to think, she went to some sort of animal heaven...because she deserved it.

She is laid to rest, in an animal cemetery.

How or why anyone could torment an animal, is beyond my comprehension.


What a loss for you. She sounded like a true member to your family.

We do grow fond of them.

What I see, what it looks like to me, is when one give more personal attention your pet, they become almost like a child in your house. They do not grow up as human adults in the family but they do have their role. Intelligent to the point where you can talk with them and they understand what you say. They make you happy and look at you with those supporting eyes just when you need them.

Sounds like you miss you doggy a lot. Get a new puppy. You would be amazed what you can learn to him/her, since you already know already so much about them!

It's sad they don't live as long as we do. On the other hand it's perhaps better for them if they have a bad family?



reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 06:30 PM by MischeviousElf
Great Thread,

Ive really enjoyed reading the contributions by you all.

This realisation or understanding rather than knowing, that occurs when we, us as human we observes deep emotions in animals, besides the usually thought about or reported base behaviour of agression, showing the very differant emotion or grief... the sympathy, even maybe sharing the feeling of grief, what we have in our hearts at that moment is the basis for a more peacefull, loving and sucessfull maybe even enlightened world.

The realisation at a deep level that we too have those same feelings, we share that same life experience, and as is sometimes maybe wrongly worded, as this thread shows by the news and reponces to, the "Humanity" of that emotion and feeling... well its a very deep rabbit hole lol if you follow that truth truly and deeply.

However it does lead to compassion, peace, kindness and respect. Surely then these values if broadened to a society are what we all want.

We all want to be happy like that.

And by seeing these things understand that the Chimpanzee is in pain (emotional) and wants happiness to.

On that thought some current threads maybe of interest to the contributers.

Anyone who is interesed in this thread will also find lots of information about Chimp Societies, interaction, intelligense and sexual habits lol

Humans Closest Sex Mad Relative Under Threat of Extinction

The above is a MUST see for the info on Chimps if you like our hairy relatives.

I did the following and tried to play devils advocate, to see it from a very logical side, that is the interraction of animals and humans and the emotions of it.
Bunny Rabbits used for Fuel to Heat Homes

So thanks guys I really enjoyed the thoughts and stories on this thread.

Kind Regards,

Elf


reply posted on 7-11-2009 @ 06:35 PM by femmefreud
reply to post by Haydn_17



Im new to the site ,so many different topics. This one hit home or hit something for sure, Thanks for the enlightenment in more ways than one, The magpie thing was really a trip. heart warming and eye opening.
Pages: <<  2    3    4    5  >>    ^^TOP^^



EVOLUTION - Did YOU Know?
  Posted 18 days ago with 24 member flags
"I was raised an atheist"- Professor František Vyskočil
  Posted 8 days ago with 6 member flags
Evolutionary theory: Gaps and not yet understood phenonemon
  Posted 19 days ago with 3 member flags
The meaning or point of existence or life
  Posted 11 days ago with 2 member flags

Newest topics getting replies, in real-time:

Official Maine Caucus Results Thread!!
  2012 US Elections, Posted 17 hours ago, 166 replies
AP: WHITNEY HOUSTON DEAD
  People, Posted 9 hours ago, 80 replies
Why conservatives . . . . . suck!
  Political Ideology, Posted 10 hours ago, 58 replies
war hungry Iran
  Middle East Issues, Posted 16 hours ago, 41 replies