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reply posted on 19-10-2009 @ 01:17 PM by JohnnyR
reply to post by Jkd Up



Ya, I have had the same thoughts too. What is the life of batteries? Or solar panels for that matter, I guess the best thing would not to be dependant on electricity.

Or learn how to make a Baghdad Battery

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reply posted on 19-10-2009 @ 01:21 PM by JohnnyR
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Also, can't diesel engines run on bio fuel easier? So if thats the case you could possibly make you own fuel...

Also, what are Trojan Batteries? I was thinking maybe a forklift battery might be a good choice?

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reply posted on 19-10-2009 @ 02:08 PM by CSquared288
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The deep-cycle battery that you'll typically get with a pv system will last anywhere from 5-10 years. You can also get industrial grade batteries which will last closer to 15-20 years. Panels themselves are normally warrant[ied?] for about 20-25 years but like anything if you maintain them they will be able to last much longer.

edit: HOWEVER, this is where the future of solar is at:

www.dailytech.com...

my company is trying to get a contract for these :] hooray tech!


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reply posted on 19-10-2009 @ 04:10 PM by ImaginaryReality1984
reply to post by Jkd Up



Batteries run out, if you want longer life storage then grab some supercapacitors. They obviously cannot hold the charge that batteries can, but they are fast to recharge, last a very long time and can be fully discharged without damage, unlike batteries.

The electricity could be stored maybe by splitting water into hydrogen and oxygen if you want a longer term solution. You will lose some of the energy in doing this but it is easy enough to make such a system yourself.

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reply posted on 20-10-2009 @ 12:17 AM by ANNED
For batteries that last a long time and can take abuse nickel iron Edison batteries are the only way to go but are expensive.

www.beutilityfree.com...
wapedia.mobi...

I have used edison batteries in mining equipment that were still charging at 100% after 50 years.

I wish i had a few million dollars to build a factory to build them.
I would corner the market on a battery that would out last the owners and that was built to be rebuilt cheaply if it did go bad.


reply posted on 20-10-2009 @ 12:33 AM by JohnnyR
reply to post by ImaginaryReality1984



All this info makes me want to go and build/design a power system. Build a prototype home thats small and efficient enough to only use the systems discussed here. Seems with a little planning and fore thought it could be done.

Using the right lights, appliances etc. Maybe start with a travel trailer first and then move to a more stationary contruction.

Anyone want to help


reply posted on 20-10-2009 @ 01:03 AM by ImaginaryReality1984
reply to post by JohnnyR



My friend, this kind of setup would require a great deal of technical knowledge, a great deal of effort, some money and even then you would often be left without power.

This is currently the problem, we the peasants are in the grip of those who supply power. If you have a large amount of money than you can provide for yourself but if you have children than the government will see anyone living off the grid as a child abuser. This is the sad fact of life. If you choose to live off of the grid then you MUSt ne hiding something.

I wish you the best of luck.



reply posted on 20-10-2009 @ 03:05 AM by The Utopian Penguin
reply to post by Jkd Up



First off if you start thinking alternate energy instead of just "solar energy" you be better off.

Using A variety of methods you can easily create enough options to get off the grid to what ever degree you like.

Solar,Wind and Micro hydro together can be quite reliable.

There is a few alternate energy links in my thread if you would like to explore. You'll find it is a good reference.
What a great resource for ATS survival ?


reply posted on 20-10-2009 @ 05:56 AM by Jkd Up
reply to post by The Utopian Penguin



Thank you. I agree; employing more than one type of energy is better, however, in a state where wind is rare and with little running water in the area... There leaves little option. Also, my draw to solar is the advances being made in the field.

On top of that; I don't want to be chilling in the woods during Sit X and have a stranger happen upon my water generator and follow the bright orange cord back to my hide out

Perhaps in a more dosile enviornment with more running water and wind it would be more plausable.

I did help a friend build a hydroelectric water wheel. That thing put off lots of energy. Enough to run his house!
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