Thanks to everyone for their replies. Some good points were made in this discussion.
reply to post by converge
First, I am in complete agreement about the probability of aliens vs. the probability of God. At this point, there's at least some
probability on aliens visiting. I used religion as an example, and it's unfortunately a bit of a flawed one. Sorry about that.
Unfortunately, right as I was hovering over the "Post" button last night, I imagined how the course of this discussion would flow, and it didn't
disappoint. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to crumble anyone's belief system here, but I noticed a few people getting a bit defensive. For
everyone who knows
that extraterrestrials are visiting Earth, however many different types there may be: Good for you. You know
faith is unshakable. Unfortunately, for the rest of us, these conversations do have some merit.
I can't prove you wrong, you can't prove yourselves right. In a way, we're all in our own "ATS" Paradox, in that for some people there is
visitation. No doubt, because they've actually seen the creatures in person, had conversations, are they themselves in fact
aliens, and so on. The problem is, they can't prove anything to anyone else, so the phenomenon remains unproven.
So, for the rest of us who've not yet had personal experiences with these creatures, it stands to reason that we should (and can only) look at the
Moving on; If the probability of alien life existing, being intelligent, having the technology to come to us, having found us, and are actually here
is still not small enough, consider the age of the universe, and the likelihood that these creatures (which have accomplished all of the above) are
even living in our own time.
Again, probability favors no, but this brings together a lot more "faith" answers: Maybe the first intelligent life in the universe is still
around, harboring other life to grow into its own intelligence. Planting crops of these and teaching them to do the same?
I ask the question above to point out that there are a million what-ifs we could ask, but those will never be useful in determining the actual truth,
because until we know
the actual truth, we'll never be able to test our conjectures. And that's unfortunate, because I love digging into the
heads of other people (or aliens!) to try and see the other side too.