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The United States, criticized for holding illegal immigrants in overcrowded and poorly run jails, on Tuesday announced plans to convert hotels to detain some noncriminal immigrants.
About 32,000 immigrants to the United States are held at any given time in about 350 local jails and private prisons, which have been criticized for providing poor medical care and oversight.
President Barack Obama is currently seeking support among Democratic and Republican lawmakers to overhaul the broken immigration system in the United States.
He supports offering illegal immigrants in good standing the chance to pay a fine and become citizens, at the same time cracking down on employers hiring undocumented workers and hardening security on the porous Mexico border.
If you get stopped, deny you're a citizen, you get a hotel room or an ankle bracelet.
If you commit a crime you go to jail ... .
If an immigrant is caught working illegaly then they get to stay in a hotel until they get deported.
Cracking down on the businesses who exploit the situation would be a good place to start, take away as many economic incentives as possible.
Immigrants come here "illegaly" to work and if they get caught working without papers then they are going to be deported.
Are they criminals? only by law.
If there is a law that says that you can't hugh anyone and you do. Are you a criminal? Did you do something bad?
Same with some immigrants, some come to work. Those are the ones that should not be in jail.
But if someone else commits a crime (steal, kill, rape) then that person should go jail.
What is happening here is that those that don't commit a crime should go to the hotel, and those that commit a crime should go to jail.
What a whole bunch of crap, here we are facing the worst economic downfall and we the tax payer have to come out with money that we don't have from our pay checks to pay for the corruption going on in government and now the government is slapping us in the face with our own tax payer money to make illegals happy and comfortable.
What a whole bunch of crap.
Begin a real program of employer sanctions, and make the aliens as well as the employers the targets. No administration since the law went into effect in 1986 has directed the proper agencies to make it happen. When INS was reorganized out of existence and the new Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) assumed its functions the Customs personnel took over most management slots in ICE. Customs personnel have never had any interest in immigration operations and that lack of interest shows now. That must change or it is the single rock upon which this ship of reform will founder.
If there is a law that says that you can't hugh anyone and you do. Are you a criminal? Did you do something bad?
Bad? That's an value judgment.
Criminal? Yes.
OK. So, if I have a job, then I can break laws without fear of going to jail.
I want to work (and rob and sell dope, and steal) in YOUR country.
So, if coming here without legal documentation is a crime, then a person doing that "should go to jail."
I'll enter your imaginary country legally, get work, and NEVER go to jail if I steal, use dope, or rob (as long as I keep my job).
Originally posted by danielsil18
reply to post by jdub297
This is my point.
There are some immigrants that don't do something bad, but they are "criminals" because the law says so.
Should you go to jail for hughing someone just because the law says you are a criminal?
I'm not saying Americans should go to jail for petty crimes, what I'm saying here is that noncriminal immigrants should not go to jail when they haven't done anything bad.
OK. So, if I have a job, then I can break laws without fear of going to jail.
I want to work (and rob and sell dope, and steal) in YOUR country.
Are you saying that all immigrants rob, sell dope and steal?
If they are immigrants paying taxes and don't do anything bad, are they hurting anyone?
But they are still "criminals" because the law says so.
You completely misunderstood my post. Read my post slowly next time.
If the law says "hughing" is illegal, then I guess you do. You must not.
Ask the Americans who need jobs: "are they hurting anyone?"