White House's Botched Photo Op (Labcoat-gate), page 1
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Topic started on 6-10-2009 @ 06:20 AM by FlyersFan
New York Post

The physicians, all invited guests, were told to bring their white lab coats to make sure that TV cameras captured the image.

But some docs apparently forgot, failing to meet the White House dress code by showing up in business suits or dresses.

So the White House rustled up white coats for them and handed them to the suited physicians who had taken seats in the sun-splashed lawn area.

All this to provide a visual counter to complaints from other doctors that pending legislation is bad news for the medical profession.

"Nobody has more credibility with the American people on this issue than you do," Obama told his guests


Obama has the audacity to talk about credibility.

Kinda reminds me of the campaign when Obama's folks went around looking for more white people to be in the audience when obama gave speeches. Remember the 'Get me more white people" story?

ABC News
(there is a thread somewhere on here about this story .. couldn't find it)

Let's REALLY talk about credible numbers - (not Obama's version of credible) New York Post Story
Why Doctors Hate BamCare

TWO-thirds of doctors "oppose the proposed health-care plan," reports an Investors Busi ness Daily/TIPP poll. Almost half would "consider leaving their practice or taking an early retirement" if "Congress passes its health-care plan." Many of my colleagues feel like we're already struggling -- nor are we prepared to take care of tens of millions more patients.

An Association of American Medical Colleges survey predicts a doctor shortage of 150,000 (at current rates of population growth) by 2025 if universal health insurance is adopted. The doctors we do have would be overwhelmed with far more patients than we could realistically take care of. We'd have to work under huge time pressures, and the service we could deliver would decline.

Those who didn't quit would have to learn to "game" the new system by seeing more patients, doing more procedures, providing less care per patient and becoming less accessible for health-choice discussions.


No transparency ...


reply posted on 6-10-2009 @ 11:09 AM by FlyersFan
Originally posted by MysterE
I wonder how many of them weren't even doctors,

I didnt' even think of that.

According to news sources, the group that were there was made up of mostly people from 'Doctors for Obama' .. which recently changed it's name to be less obvious ... Doctors for America.

The White House claims that 'only' 40 of the 150 people there were with Doctors for Obama.

AMA association

gateway

But the doctors in the Rose Garden were all supporters of health care reform -- and the invitation-only guest list drew heavily from Doctors for America, a grassroots organization that backs a government-run insurance option.

Roughly 98 percent of the group's 15,000 members support a public insurance option, Doctors for America spokeswoman Megan Smith told FOXNews.com. She said roughly 40 of the 150 doctors who attended the meeting were from the organization.



reply posted on 6-10-2009 @ 11:40 AM by clay2 baraka
Originally posted by FlyersFan
TWO-thirds of doctors "oppose the proposed health-care plan," reports an Investors Busi ness Daily/TIPP poll. Almost half would "consider leaving their practice or taking an early retirement" if "Congress passes its health-care plan." Many of my colleagues feel like we're already struggling -- nor are we prepared to take care of tens of millions more patients.


Those alarming results come from a very shady poll...

IBD/TIPP Doctors Poll is not Trustworthy

I'm flying 35,000 feet somewhere over Eastern Ohio now -- isn't technology wonderful? -- so I can only comment on this briefly, but the Investors' Business Daily poll purporting to show widespread opposition to health care reform among doctors is simply not credible. There are five reasons why:

1. The survey was conducted by mail, which is unusual. The only other mail-based poll that I'm aware of is that conducted by the Columbus Dispatch, which was associated with an average error of about 7 percentage points -- the highest of any pollster that we tested.

2. At least one of the questions is blatantly biased: "Do you believe the government can cover 47 million more people and it will cost less money and th quality of care will be better?". Holy run-on-sentence, Batman? A pollster who asks a question like this one is not intending to be objective.

3. As we learned during the Presidntial campaign -- when, among other things, they had John McCain winning the youth vote 74-22 -- the IBD/TIPP polling operation has literally no idea what they're doing. I mean, literally none. For example, I don't trust IBD/TIPP to have competently selected anything resembling a random panel, which is harder to do than you'd think.

4. They say, somewhat ambiguously: "Responses are still coming in." This is also highly unorthodox. Professional pollsters generally do not report results before the survey period is compete.

5. There is virtually no disclosure about methodology. For example, IBD doesn't bother to define the term "practicing physician", which could mean almost anything. Nor do they explain how their randomization procedure worked, provide the entire question battery, or anything like that.

My advice would be to completely ignore this poll. There are pollsters out there that have an agenda but are highly competent, and there are pollsters that are nonpartisan but not particularly skilled. Rarely, however, do you find the whole package: that special pollster which is both biased and inept. IBD/TIPP is one of the few exceptions.


[edit on 10/6/2009 by clay2 baraka]


reply posted on 6-10-2009 @ 12:27 PM by jibeho
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
What I find hilarious is that people would actually think that doctors would show up in their white coats to a meeting with the president!

Of COURSE this is a Photo Op and the White House provided the coats. It was my very first thought when I saw it on TV. This surprises some of you? I can't believe it!

Just because some people are gullible, that doesn't mean the White House is hiding something. Clearly, they didn't intend to hide this. Or pictures wouldn't have been taken of them handing out the coats! In the Rose Garden, no less! This isn't "smoke and mirrors"... unless you're blind. This is all part of the Photo Op. Obama even made a comment about it in his speech!

[edit on 6-10-2009 by Benevolent Heretic]



I find it hilarious that the average Obama follower will easily take the bait, hook, line and sinker. That's why Obama handed out lab coats to doctors who did not bring one as instructed. I call it keeping up appearances and Obama is struggling on all fronts to do this. His support is falling just as fast as the value of the US Dollar.

These followers get their news from NBC and will never know the behind the scenes truth behind the "meeting". All they see are doctors who support Obama. Bottom line. Obama infomercial #26 mission accomplished.

He is faced by massive problems on all fronts right now and all he has time for is more parlor tricks which may or may not illicit more support for his ill conceived plan.

I would love to see him apply this same amount of effort to the war strategy in Afghanistan.

[edit on 6-10-2009 by jibeho]


reply posted on 6-10-2009 @ 01:43 PM by ImaginaryReality1984
reply to post by FlyersFan



Let me just try and understand this. You are annoyed that the doctors were asked to wear white coats to show they were doctors?

Nope i'm missing some kind of mental connection here. They were there to support the presidents view and obviously didn't mind wearing the coats. They are doctors so there has been no deception. If one of them wasn't a doctor, then you'd have something to get really angry about and i'd be rght their with you. I think you're just swallowing any and all anti-Obama propaganda.

Oh and i'm not even an american so i have no stakes in taking a side here, just going with the whole logical thing

Edit because either my fingers aren't working or my keyboard was having a bad day and decided to mess up words

[edit on 6-10-2009 by ImaginaryReality1984]


reply posted on 6-10-2009 @ 01:48 PM by marg6043
reply to post by FlyersFan



I forgot what bill are the picture perfect doctors favoring? because i lost count with so many darn bills in congress.

I know want thing for sure, is the bill that will protect their bill business with big pharma and the insurance companies.
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