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Smart: He told me to get shoes. When I reached for normal slip-on shoes he told me to take the tennis shoes.
Tolman: He corrected you and indicated you should take tennis shoes ... did you ask why he was taking you?
Smart: Yes, he told me he was taking me hostage and holding me ransom.
Tolman: You learned it was a lie.
Tolman: What would he want to talk about or do?
Smart: Usually when he'd go down it was after a day or so of not eating, so he would bring back something to eat, then he would go on to rape me.