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reply posted on 24-9-2009 @ 05:22 PM by Bildeberg
reply to post by Mr. rock

I think that when you die you are given a choice : To stay in Heaven or to reincarnate in another human being, supposedly you could return to Earth at anytime if you´re bored of Heaven.


reply posted on 24-9-2009 @ 05:47 PM by Karilla
reply to post by Mr. rock


Just a couple of thoughts. Perhaps he had a very boring life as someone who lived to the age of forty, but which cast no metaphysical shadow on his current life?

Many Buddhists don't seem to be advocating the same form of reincarnation that the Buddha himself talked about (according to a "Life of The Buddha" that I read many years ago. He taught that ALL lives are our past lives. He specifically used the analogy of bricks and said that it is NOT as though each life was seperate and lead to the next life. He seemed to be saying that, as there is no "You" or "I", all lives are ours to experience. The way we experience them and what we experience is down to our Karma, but the whole process is outside of time. I was reading Jung at the same time, so it's possible that some of the ideas in Synchronicity and Buddhism have become conflated in my mind.

I have also been given to understand that in the early Christian church reincarnation was thought to take place in a similar, but more consecutive way, to the Buddhist idea. This continued until the Day of Judgement, when the final fate of all sould was to be decided.


reply posted on 24-9-2009 @ 06:39 PM by impaired
reply to post by Totalstranger


I don't know about the Pope thing, but I can't believe you didn't read or hear about the boy who claims that he's reincarnated. He is an American kid who said he was a WWII pilot who was shot down...

I took the liberty of finding an article about it (there are many)...

This article in particular is friggin riveting.

www.dailymail.co.uk...

Now my 2 cents about Heaven and Reincarnation existing? From what I've read about near death experiences and past-life regression, when you die, you go to a spiritual plane that people call heaven - because since you are freed of your body, there is no more physicality involved... All of these people said that they felt the most incredible love imaginable - no matter how bad they were... Then their life replayed from start to end, and THEY had to judge THEMSELVES. But there were always spiritual guides mentioned...

Here. I've read all of these (took hours):

www.near-death.com...

So, from what I gather, you go to a heaven-like place that is in a place where time doesn't exist. Then you come back when ready - knowing exactly what you are getting yourself into and what the outcome of the next life will be... Sounds like a karmic thing...

Of course this is all conjecture... I'm just presenting pieces to the puzzle, but this is what I believe... Bar none... It makes too much sense to me.



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reply posted on 24-9-2009 @ 11:49 PM by SpacePunk
reply to post by Mr. rock


I remember from personal experience that reincarnation or incarnation is real. I don't remember anything previous to being 'sent', 'assigned', 'sentenced' to 'here', but I do remember the process. It's my earliest memory, those that have known me all my life always said that I was 'different', and never really was a child. I don't identify with them, and don't 'get' why they are so stupid (perhaps stupid is the wrong word). I started reading as soon as I could pick up a book.

I do know when I 'arrived' at the age of one. 'Trial', 'choice' of life I would live, being cast down a 'vortex', then BAM consciousness in a pitiful body on a planet with no 'power'. Fully cognizant at that age.

I can't say that where I was immediately before that was 'heaven' or anything like that. It was more like being on trial in front of 'it'. Memories of what lead up to that, or any previous life/experience were not allowed to me.
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