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Originally posted by TheOneElectric
It is my wish that individuals do not have to go through troubles to try to understand another's trouble. I see it as if you are empathizing merely because you are close to danger as well, then you are not learning anything that you came into this life to learn.
Originally posted by lpowell0627
I'm beginning to sense you have an agenda. I started to think so when I read your other thread about finally realizing that Obama is a nice guy and really wants what's best for the country, etc.
This is your second, if not more than second, attempt at getting his healthcare reform passed.
This time your tactic seems to be to include a human interest story. Next up: Joe the Plumber...
I'm not saying that your situation isn't real, I'm just saying that you seem pretty determined lately to change people's impression of Obama AND get his healthcare passed....
There are better ways to help your employer than mandating EVERYONE in the country maintain health insurance. Why must others scrape by and incur increased expenses so that your company can enjoy low cost healthcare?
Further, if you think $200 per month is unaffordable now....just wait to see the pricetag on Obama's plan.
You don't put a plan into effect that costs AT LEAST $900B without passing the cost onto the taxpayers.....
I refer you to ABC's interview.
Healthcare reform = mandatory tax increase. PERIOD. And I would bet you $500 that the pricetag is MORE THAN $200 per month for most of us.
Originally posted by lpowell0627
reply to post by TheOneElectric
Put it to you this way, I would rather give Pigpen $200 a month to cover his plan, than have Obama's go through. Obama's will cost me more.
Originally posted by lpowell0627
reply to post by TheOneElectric
There is a difference between being empathetic to the needs of others, and willingly helping out those in need, than being forced to pay an amount, set by the gpvernment, for something I may or may not want for myself.
Put it to you this way, I would rather give Pigpen $200 a month to cover his plan, than have Obama's go through. Obama's will cost me more.
Healthcare NEEDS to be fixed.
Children need to be covered.
There are better ways to accomplish this than the current bill.
Obama wants you to believe his way is the ONLY way -- and it's not.
Originally posted by KSPigpen
Make no mistake, the healthcare plan WILL pass. Not because anyone 'agrees' with it or not, but because we just don't have a choice, or a voice any more.
Do I like it? nope. I sure don't, but I love my family and they need insurance. They need health insurance and prescription coverage that I can AFFORD and still be able to feed them without signing up for government cheese. Yet. I really don't expect the system we're living in now to be able to sustain itself fro much longer anyway, so it's probably all a non-issue.
Originally posted by lpowell0627
reply to post by KSPigpen
You have done a 180 on your opinion of Obama lately. I find it odd that your sudden change of heart is coming fast and furiously of late.
We are all scared. Most of us -- myself included -- are broke. I have kids. We are living on 40% of what we made last year. Income is 60% less, but my bills continue to grow.
The answer you seek is not to give more money to the government. That is a one-way ticket in which you can never get off the bus. Taxes and fees never get erased -- they either get reallocated or increased.
Point being -- once everyone says "yeah Obamacare" -- it is a bill we will be paying for for the rest of our lives.
PS - As I said, I feel for your situation. But considering your recent posts, it reads more like a human interest story to get Obamacare passed.
You start a thread entitled: Sign me up for Obamacare.
You then relay a story completely centered around WHY Obamacare is great and you need it (and the inference is that others like you need it to).
Then, you reply to my post saying that you don't like the fact that Obamacare is going to pass at all.
Could you please tell me what side of the fence you are on? You speak about not having a choice. Have you decided to join "Team Obamacare" out of duress?
PS - I never called you a name. I simply said that there seems to be a running theme in your posts recently.