Medina Wasl (Fake Iraqi town in the California desert), page 1
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Topic started on 21-9-2009 @ 03:14 AM by gariac
Medina Wasl

Not sure if this really qualifies as a base, but unlike Dulce, it's real. ;-)

There are 13 fake Iraqi (probably Middle Eastern is a better description) towns in the Calfornia desert used for training troop. They are located in "the box", which is short for "the sand box", for obvious reasons. They recently opened up on of the fake villages to the public.

You see a very small part of Ft. Irwin considering it is the size of Rhode Island. The tour comprises the museum, eating real base food, viewing the EOD department, and of course a street battle in a fake Iraqi village. Ear plugs are provided. No souvenirs allowed, even though the street is littered in casings.

If you ever wondered what Bicycle Lake airstrip looks like, you get to view it from the distance. There isn't much infrastructure there, though anyone who has camped out around the Nellis ranges would consider it heaven on earth. The housing is a "foam dome". The airstrip is dirt. It can handle a C130.


reply posted on 21-9-2009 @ 10:10 AM by MontanaMike
reply to post by MysterE



Maybe Iraq and Afghanistan are just "training" for what they're planning next.


They're getting awful good at kicking in doors and dragging people off into camps in the middle of the night over there.



reply posted on 28-9-2009 @ 01:22 AM by bg_socalif
Originally posted by gariac
Medina Wasl

Not sure if this really qualifies as a base, but unlike Dulce, it's real. ;-)

There are 13 fake Iraqi (probably Middle Eastern is a better description) towns in the Calfornia desert used for training troop. They are located in "the box", which is short for "the sand box", for obvious reasons. They recently opened up on of the fake villages to the public.

You see a very small part of Ft. Irwin considering it is the size of Rhode Island. The tour comprises the museum, eating real base food, viewing the EOD department, and of course a street battle in a fake Iraqi village. Ear plugs are provided. No souvenirs allowed, even though the street is littered in casings.

If you ever wondered what Bicycle Lake airstrip looks like, you get to view it from the distance. There isn't much infrastructure there, though anyone who has camped out around the Nellis ranges would consider it heaven on earth. The housing is a "foam dome". The airstrip is dirt. It can handle a C130.



Excellent pictures! When i'm back stateside i might take the tour there just for the heck of it. They need to be more realistic though, they need more trash and raw sewage in the streets. j/k It is an excellent training scenario for our men and women though.

If i'm not mistaken the Marines have (or had) a training area like that set up at their TwentyNine Palms base as well.

I remember a couple years ago, Raytheon was running temporary job openings on their Careers site for "Training Consultants" to play local nationals in training scenarios. Some Arabic language ability was desired, but not required. I remember it said the "consultants" would be on site for six days at a time, with 1 day off back at the base to shower and rest. And they would also have to bring their own food out on site during their six days out there, basically living as Iraqi's during the scenario. It was for 22 days per month during the summer.



reply posted on 1-10-2009 @ 07:05 PM by Deson
Originally posted by Zaphod58
There is or was a member on here that worked as an "Iraqi civilian" at these bases. He said the training they gave the troops was as real as they could make it, and it was an interesting job.


I'm not sure if you were referring to me or not. I worked as a "Mock Iraqi" at Fort McCoy in Wisconsin. Scattered through the Fort are various "Mock Villages" and I played the part of your average Iraqi civilian and interact with troops as their convoys would go to our villages. Depending on the scenario we would do everything from Smile and wave friendly like, to riot, throw bottles, sniper fire with everything from AK-47s (the real things but shooting blanks) to rubber RPGs. Unfortunately I no longer have the job due to distance. I was offered it by the new company that got the contract but it would require me to move over 100 miles away from where I am now. Yes, we did indeed try to make things as real as we could make them right up to and including uncooperative civilians, etc.


For further reading, I'm enclosing some links to some of my threads where I discuss this rather odd job that I had.

Deson gets a strange job

Military convoy brought to a halt by big speedo

Something that I tried to give the troops.

Now I'll admit that the facilities that we used aren't on par with Medina but this should give you a general idea of what's going on.

I hope this is of help.

(edit to add)

Yep, looked at the thread and the pictures. Other than a better setup, that's the same thing that I did.




[edit on 1-10-2009 by Deson]


reply posted on 3-10-2009 @ 10:36 PM by gariac
reply to post by Deson



I liked your posts a lot.

The "players" at Wasl are supposedly expats. Some expats have relatives in the middle east that could be endangered if it was known that they were aiding the Americans in this fake town.

They let you photograph anything you want, but expect a bit of self-censoring if a face is clearly seen. I made no attempt to hide my camera, so anyone not wishing to be photographed got their wish. I omitted a few photographs that I thought might show a face to clearly just to be safe. In one case, a woman's veil slipped. That was on video. In another case, a guy was wearing glasses, but they were a bit too light colored. That is, you could clearly see his face.


reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 03:22 PM by Zaphod58
reply to post by Deson



Yeah, it was you I was thinking of. I was sitting here wracking my brain trying to remember your screen name, but drew a blank.
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