what does it all mean? what was oneworldorder exactly. does it mean the weishpuit organasation known as the Illuminati is no more is the website simply a fake?

How legitimate is this? Do we have any verification of his claims?

NO!!!

Originally posted by phoenix_cross
what does it all mean? what was oneworldorder exactly. does it mean the weishpuit organasation known as the Illuminati is no more is the website simply a fake?

oneworldorder.org was a website that claimed that it would make you a member of the illuminati if you paid a fee.

[Edited on 2-19-2003 by echelon]

no way in hell i fallin for that. that's why we have friends who aren't really are friends but we like to make them think they are so they do things for us. too bad it's already disproven. thanks!

the ideas there aren't that bad. i agree with humanity needing to work together to survive regardless of social things. but they contradict themselves in saying the most intelligent are better than the rest. if they were truly knowledgable they try to educate the undecated to show them what they're doing instead of casting them out as pathetic and useless.

this was on their main page...

"The age of the enlightened has arrived. The time is now, the time is near, and the time has come. The Sacred trust of civilization rests on The Illuminati, to ensure the course of the future and to provide for the growth of an enlightened society. The future must be ensured by the able, and our civilization must be protected from the weak minded, the lazy and the parasites of society. The time to eradicate the looters, the parasites whom threaten not only the freedoms of the enlightened, but also the very existence of mankind. The objectivist mind has a duty and obligation to ensure that our future and the future of our children and our childrenís children will be secured, and their environment will be free from tyrants, dictators, terrorism and instability. The mystic along with the lazy is the enemy of mankind. The Illuminati Order invites all non-theists, atheists, freethinkers, agnostic etc. to join us in the struggle and the fight for freedom, peace and tranquility. Freedom is the only thing worth living and dying for. Those whom would not fight for freedom have no right to live."

Originally posted by echelonThe time to eradicate the looters, the parasites whom threaten not only the freedoms of the enlightened, but also the very existence of mankind. The objectivist mind has a duty and obligation to ensure that our future and the future of our children and our childrenís children will be secured, and their environment will be free from tyrants, dictators, terrorism and instability.

And I notice that the writer has lost the "objectivity" he calls for by "subjectively" calling for elimination rather than education...Can we say, "oxymoron"? I knew we could.
To a truly objective mind, education is the elimination of ignorance, but eliminating the ignorant only forces more ignorance to be born. Ignorance can be dispelled only by education, for those who are ignorant *can still learn* with education.

But then, who's definition are we to apply to the "program" of education? If we use *their* version of "education", they will, by neccesity, need to teach people to be ignorant so they can maintain their positions of power. This has been true throughout human history...Those in power have *always* maintained their control by witholding true education from the masses that support their positions.

Once the whole of humanity is enlightened, we will have outgrown the need for patriotism, religious fanaticism & the need to have a small minority of people for leadership, because everyone will be capable of leading themselves & taking care of their own responsibilities that come with true freedom.

The *truly* enlightened will realize that they must obtain a position of power for the sole purpose of putting themselves *out* of power...Any lesser goal will only breed more ignorance. Therefore, all of these so-called "illuminated ones" contradict themselves by seeking to *retain* the power they've acquired for any reason whatsoever.

[Edited on 22-2-2003 by MidnightDStroyer]

where's Faust Bael when you need him? LOL!!!

As in Bael the Phoenician Sun Goddess? Please explain yourself Gazrok, I don't understand your statement.