The other side of the story-WW2, page 1
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Topic started on 14-9-2009 @ 02:00 PM by m4ng4n
Of course today it upsets several people if you say something that speaks in favour of Nazis but is that the whole truth?
If you today say anything in favour of the Nazis you are automatically called an antisemite or even accused of being a Nazi yourself!

Us told all of the time to feel sorry for the death of at first 6 million+ jews in concentration camps, a figure that was changed years later to 660.000 but are still argued about?

No matter the numbers it´s WRONG! What the Nazis did is unforgivable no question about that.

And we are told this all the time, generation after generation...

But do keep in mind that NSDAP aka the Nazis where a political party. They where the leaders of that time.

But what we are not told is that the Allied powers where responsible for over 30 million deaths of Japanese and german citizens, soldiers and civilians.

In three days between the 13-14th februari 1945 the Axis bombed the city of Dresden, Germany with 1300 airplanes creating a firestorm of 15 square miles dropping a mere 3,900 tons of high explosive bombs.
The number of PEOPLE killed estimates an 135-360.000


The bombings of Hamburg commencing on the night of July 24, 1943, the bombing continued until August 3 resulted in an estimated 45,000 civilian deaths. 2/3 of the population became refugees in their own land. Operation Gomorrah, just to name an operation as such proves a sick mind.


With one A-bomb in Hiroshima the US killed 140.000 civilians and to furthermore demonstrate heir power they dropped another one killing 80.000 in Nagasaki.
Before the A-bombs where dropped, the last seven months of the campaign firebombing tactics resulted in great destruction of 67 Japanese cities, as many as 500,000 Japanese deaths and some 5 million more made homeless...Civilians... 100.000 in Tokyo alone!

I don´t think you need a video for that one...

But that´s OK and fine with us in our winner written history...

They had it coming tho they were ruthless Nazis and evil Japanese anyways!

Right?

I think if you take your time to watch this last video it pretty much concludes it...



Today the leaders of our countries send out us (the soldiers) to fight for a just cause in other parts of the world and as always 3/4 of the losses are civilian.

Question is...whoms justice?

"The 4th world war will be fought with sticks and stones" -Albert Einstein-


reply posted on 11-10-2009 @ 11:19 PM by napayshni57
reply to post by ZeroKnowledge



Are you sure Germany and Japan started the war? Exactly how do we know the exact date the war really started or do we just say it started when Governments officially declared war?


In this country we'll tell you the American civil war started in 1861 but actually the unrest leading up to it started in 1820. So when is the true start of a war?


reply posted on 12-10-2009 @ 04:10 AM by ZeroKnowledge
reply to post by napayshni57



Of course. Of course. Germany did not declare war on Poland. It is a known lie. Polish troops invaded Berlin and stole Hitler's flying saucers in 1939. All this happened while British and French bombers were leveling Berlin just like Czechs did a year before. Nazi Germany did not start the war. I repeat - no they did not start a war. Plus - Judea declared war on Germany first. And there were trillions of Axis civilians dead and only few on allied side.
Of course history lies.
By the way - official version has its problems. This is true. But it has a lot more facts to back it up then "alternative" one, pushed by some totally "innocent" ,not-connected-to-neo-Nazis-at-all dudes.
War starts when WAR starts. Not when it is comfortable to future generations. Hitler declared war on Poland fist. This is a fact. All the attempts to jump around are funny.


reply posted on 12-10-2009 @ 09:38 AM by napayshni57
reply to post by ZeroKnowledge



We will disagree on official history having more facts to back it up. There are resources out there not only on WW2 but other areas of history that disagree with the official history or add more insight to that period of time. Much of what is not called official history facts is burried deep, owned by people if you are lucky you get to meet because they are collectors and have things the general public isn't aware of.

A true ATSer would know that everything is not always what it is said to be. There is always more.

We seem to use the term war when we want to do something and think we have enough to justify our actions to the sheeples that set watching their tvs, or listening to their radios in some cases or hearing by word of mouth before that time what our leaders want us to hear.

If we don't know what all leads to the esculation point of something we are doomed to keep repeating hisotry over and over.

Have you ever asked what if the boycott war of Germany's economy would of been disfussed instead of let to continue would so many innocnet lives of still been taken? Probably not because if we would ask ourselves that question it would take us away from passing blame on who is responsible. If we did we would we all are to blame for what happened. Not just Germans or Jews but the whole world. Yes we all have blood on our hands. If we just look at official history we can pretend we don 't.

I do doubt you and I will see eye to eye on that.
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