American 'Peace Now' Opposes Iran Sanctions, page 1
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reply posted on 14-9-2009 @ 11:46 AM by Eye On War
reply to post by Solomons



If Israel didn't have Nuclear weapons she would have been wiped out years ago... the only reason Israel is not invaded by her enemies is because of the deterrence of being the only nation in the immediate area who posesses a nuclear arsenal. Once Iran develops the capability to build nukes, this already fragile deterrence will completely disappear, and Israel will be invaded by her many arab enemies.

Why is everyone so quick to attack Israel? The President of Iran has on numerous occasions openly stated completely unacceptable things such as 'Death to Israel'... I mean honestly do you really think it's a good idea to let someone with this kind of thinking build nuclear weapons?



reply posted on 14-9-2009 @ 11:59 AM by mattpryor
reply to post by Eye On War



I don't wish to detract from the sentiment of your post, because I mostly agree with you.

But one point I disagree with is this: the reason Israel is still there has nothing to do with their nukes, it's because they have the best trained and equipped military in the region, and when they fight wars its for survival, not for some abstract political goal. Not many other countries can say that.

Also, Israel has never confirmed or denied that they even have nukes. It's all speculation.

Back to the OP, is this group actually related to Peace Now in Israel? Or just using the name? If they're related I have to seriously question their agenda.

Not sure sanctions will do any good mind you, didn't persuade Saddam or Kim Yung Il to turn from the dark side and don't seem to have done much to persuade Iran either.


reply posted on 14-9-2009 @ 12:07 PM by Eye On War
reply to post by savetimerushonline



I read the article you have linked to, and noticed this quote:



Peace Now vehemently opposes the strategy of imposing sanctions in order to [deliberately inflict] "suffering on civilians in the hope that if the people are miserable enough, they will pressure their government to change course."


Ok now my question to Peace Now would be 'what other option is their, apart from the military one'? Do they honestly think that the leaders of Iran are just going to give up their nuclear ambitions after sitting down and having a nice chat with Obama or whomever? No of course their not! They are pursuing nuclear weapon making capability at full throttle, because they know that once they reach it, the balance of power will majorly shift in their favour.

So why not take advantage of the already hostile feelings a large part of the Iranian population are feeling towards their government after the recent elections, and impose crippling sanctions with the goal of causing such anger and unrest in the general population that they rise up in large enough numbers to topple the current regime? I know this sounds harsh and unfair, but some times the end result justifies the means.


reply posted on 14-9-2009 @ 12:25 PM by mattpryor
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It would be great if the international community could come up with another way of forcing a government to behave without resorting to sanctions or violence though wouldn't it?

I think that a lot of people agree that a nuclear armed Iran will be a Very Bad Thing for the region and for the world, so that's not in dispute (from me anyway).

But to be honest I can't think of a single instance where sanctions have done anything but harden and isolate the target government, punish the general population, without achieving any of the intended objectives.


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