EXCLUSIVE: Analysis of the Al Qaeda Beheading Video of Nick Berg, page 3
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reply posted on 27-5-2004 @ 06:17 PM by signa



reply posted on 27-5-2004 @ 06:32 PM by John Nada
Originally posted by signa
Filmmaker Moore Says He Has Footage Of Berg Interview
www.local6.com...


I think you should make this into a seperate news story man, it's very interesting indeed. I wonder how he came into possession of it

It would most likely answer alot of the questions that have been floating around here, although we'll probably never get to see it. Good of him to not release it really and just dealing with the family.


reply posted on 26-4-2005 @ 08:09 AM by WyrdeOne
The blood spray depends on a lot of factors, there's nobody (physician or otherwise) who can say 'this will happen without exception' in regards to the human body. Low blood pressure/high blood pressure, poor circulation/increased circulation, arterial blockages, heart attack; any of these could explain the low blood flow.

However, blood does spray some distance in many cases, sometimes it is rather spectacular, so that can't be written off. It depends on a lot of factors, like location of cut, depth of cut, sharpness of the blade, etc., etc..

I don't think this point should be bought whole-hog, nor should it be discounted out of hand.

Once again, blood can spray a ridiculous distance, just like in the splatter-gore films - under the right circumstances, within the constraints of the victim's physiology.

The chairs certainly don't prove anything, as has been said.

The time stamps are interesting, and mirror those irregularities observed in 9/11 airport footage. I think these 'little details' are great at confusing some people, and simply roll off the back of those who can't believe their leaders would mislead them. Cheap to do, and very effective.

As far as the 'ring', it could have been a camera artifact, or perhaps it could have been what some claim it to be, proof that the perpetrators are not fanatical muslims. Mossad has been implicated in some false flag attacks, to increase the perceived threat level and to soften resistance to military action. Berg would seem a perfect candidate for that sort of operation, because most people would discount Israeli involvement immediately. 'They'd never kill one of their own people!' Right. They are somehow 'more human' than every other group of people on the planet, who have a well recorded history of doing horrible things to their own kind for various reasons. I don't think so. This is a possibility that can't be discounted.

Maybe Berg wasn't beheaded at all, and this video is just a reasonably well executed fake. It certainly was effective at acheiving its goals if that's the case. Think about it, Joe Public believed it, some conspiracy theorists believed it, and the rest didn't. That's perfect, because what it does is sow confusion and disbelief, along with fear and anger - those who succumb to emotional responses are much easier to manipulate (they're more predictable, and more easily influenced as a result).

The point of this conspiracy, like all conspiracies, is not to be perfectly concealed. The point is to be good enough to fool a majority, and poor enough to be noticed by some fringe elements. When the fringe starts howling, the majority is further distanced from them, less likely to listen to them in the future, and have 'their own' convictions cemented (largely by the simple desire to be opposed to those they see as un-patriotic and 'crazy').

This is yet another example of a perfectly executed (no pun intended) ruse. It fools enough people to fly perpetually, isolates the rest, and keeps everyone just far enough away from each other on various minute issues to prevent the sheep from ganging up (with any sort of factual, provable, easily explainable points) on the masked shepherds - whoever they may be in this case.

I tend to suspect Mossad whenever something goes down this smoothly. Nobody else in the world, no inteligence service I've ever known of, has the ability to run with the ball like they do. They're good, and it shows.

The video isn't a perfect fake, that wouldn't serve their interests nearly so well as the imperfect one you see before you.

There're some other interesting loose ends for people to follow, for example; the reports of Berg being alive after the event. There's also a couple of sites claiming that the server that first uploaded the video was based in a Texas hotel suite - Houston I think. Regardless of the truth behind those, and other similarly unsubstantiated allegations (the ring, the cap, the time stamps, the dialects, etc., etc.), it's a ruse designed to confuse. It's a maze designed without an exit, because reasonable doubt always exists in some, and of course the hardcore on both sides will believe whatever is most comfortable regardless of what's shown to them. The great divide is successfully widened.

Divided..and counquered. That's us.


reply posted on 14-5-2008 @ 07:00 PM by mr-lizard
Okay....

Has anybody made any comparisons between this and the UK prisoner
Kenneth Bigley (biggley?) who was executed in a similar manner.

Just a thought.

He apparently escaped just before being re-captured and then beheaded.

news.bbc.co.uk...

Mr Bigley is thought to have escaped for around half an hour, with the help of one of his captors

Quote from the BBC.

www.kirkbytimes.co.uk...

Many seem to believe Ken was dead when he was beheaded; the video itself is not a continuous one and is spliced (cut) at several points using computer software. The editing may have been done to hide the fact Ken was dead as the killers cut off his head.

Quote from the kirkby times.

Very, very interesting.

[edit on 14-5-2008 by mr-lizard]
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