Information Control Techniques and the Anniversary of 9/11

Things aren't always what they seem in this world.

Recent posts, like Concluding that 9/11 is a Government Conspiracy is Grotesque threw up some huge red flags that really need to be further elaborated upon in a different thread. It is the perfect example of a post that has telltale signs of disinformation.

The Stubborn Clueless Fool Fallacy

As we all know, the anniversary of 9/11 is tomorrow. This section of the site is probably going to be receiving a lot of traffic. There is a huge incentive for certain groups to control information or contain information here, since this is one of the largest conspiracy sites on the net.

A perfect example of this is the "Torture Photos" issue. Bush and Cheney went on a media blitz in May, when Obama was thinking about releasing torture photos. Ultimately those photos were not released. Now, the whole justification for keeping these photos secret was "national security". However, this effectively means we have no idea what kind of torture was being done. We do know, because of Leaked Photos that it goes much farther than mere waterboarding. This is something the Bush administration wants to cover.

Here are some segments in an article by North Carolinian David Kasper talking about how the US Government is illegally suppressing FOIA requests due to "national security reasons".

In a Freedom of Information Act suit brought by the ACLU, dozens of photos of detainee abuse and torture were ordered released by a federal court in September of last year. Rather than release the photos, Obama’s Justice Department has appealed to the Supreme Court to keep them secret.

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As Obama’s CIA Director Leon Panetta recently said, “It’s time to move on.” In other words, the less we know about it, and the quicker we forget about it, the better.

It is in all of our best interests to pay careful attention to the types of threads that develop here over the next few days. More importantly, pay attention to the style of argument used. Over-the-top insults are a warning sign. Newly registered users are a warning sign. Users that post in a narrow band of topics or are overly apologetic to certain groups are a warning sign. Every user has a history and it extends beyond just the words in this thread.

You have to ask, why would someone who admits that Bush was involved in a conspiracy be so supportive of his ends?

Originally posted by Pathos
Here is a 'true' conspiracy: As the war on Afghanistan played out, a small group of US government officials did create a conspiracy. You see it wasn't 9/11 that was the conspiracy. It was the 'use' of 9/11 to spring board the United States into Iraq.

With that in mind, I want to link to another thread (by the same individual who wrote the 'Grotesque' thread) where he condones torture and praises the Bush administration. Keep in mind that we don't even know what kind of torture was used. These documents have been kept secret by the Justice Department.
Bush Administration is Right - Yet Again!

It is funny to note that in the body of the text in the "Bush is Right!" thread where Pathos put his own opinion, he wrote

Originally posted by Pathos
All those reasons people have for voting for Obama were based upon media planted lies.

Pathos can't say it's silly to call someone a disinformation agent because he has admitted to believing in them himself.

That's because he is a disinformation agent himself.

If you are coming into this forum and you are on the fence, I encourage you to stay a while and to browse through a number of the threads here. Please keep in mind that the bad guys are the ones who caused 9/11, whoever they are. The bad guys are never the people asking questions about it. This we can agree upon.

It can be difficult to take in why someone would intentionally spread disinformation, let alone attack their own people. The argument is surprisingly simple. They believe they are protecting the national security interests of the United States, just like in the torture example.

“If the world finds out about the types of torture that was used, it could mean an escalation in violence against US troops, therefore we should not release the torture photos”

“If the world finds out about 9-11, it could mean an escalation in violence against US troops, therefore we should not release the information we have about 9-11”

Here is a quote by Pathos towards the end of that monster thread.

Originally posted by Pathos
You go to bed in the comfort of your own homes. You think the world is safe when you walk out the door. Once you sit down at your desk, you still feel secure knowing your little bubble cannot be broken. What you do not realize is that its a harsh world out there. People are trying to kill our way of life. After you learn about some of the techniques we use to defend ourselves, you stop in shock and awe about what we do to protect your precess bubble. People begin to riot. Sure, some of the things we do are controversial, but they save and protect the rights that you take for granted.

America voted for Change, not DELTA. 9-11 aside, the insane tactics used by our government including lying to go to war have clearly made the world a more dangerous place. Coming clean about 9/11 and torture is the first step to real transparency… something that the Obama administration PROMISED US.

White House Website, Section on Transparency and Open Government

Government should be transparent.
Transparency promotes accountability and provides information for citizens about what their Government is doing. Information maintained by the Federal Government is a national asset. My Administration will take appropriate action, consistent with law and policy, to disclose information rapidly in forms that the public can readily find and use. Executive departments and agencies should harness new technologies to put information about their operations and decisions online and readily available to the public. Executive departments and agencies should also solicit public feedback to identify information of greatest use to the public.

Remember that the burden of proof to fill in the holes about 9/11 lies with the government. You don’t have to provide a coherent story, THEY DO.

It doesn’t matter if terrorists planned 9/11, our leaders did the best to stop it but couldn’t, they had to make a tough call, and then they detonated the WTC with bombs that were planted beforehand just in case of such an event happened, to prevent the buildings from destroying the rest of the skyline. It doesn’t matter, America could accept it. We know the Official Story is flawed.

A true patriot will make the government uphold their promises of Transparency and Openness. That means releasing EVERYTHING about 9-11 and torture. All of the tapes, pictures, videos, records, black boxes, everything. The American people deserve to know, and all efforts to block the truth from getting out are doomed to fail, and the government could end these rumors in a second if they wanted to, so why don’t they?

This is the basis behind the so-called Truth movement. We deserve an honest explanation for the deaths of thousands of our countrymen. Don’t be fooled. Being patriotic is NOT just shutting the # up.

Re-Investigate 9-11.

Excellent post. The lack of responses is a bury technique.

Information like this should be spread and is valid.

Starred and flagged.