U.S. Deaths In Afghanistan Set New Monthly Record, page 1
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Topic started on 28-8-2009 @ 05:05 PM by David9176


reply posted on 28-8-2009 @ 05:28 PM by David9176
reply to post by KSPigpen





What are we gonna DO, Dave?


Where are the Conservatives? Where are the Liberals?

Does no one GIVE A DAMN ANYMORE?!?!??!!!?!!

For cripes sakes people....we are supporting OUR OWN DEMISE.

WE ARE PAYING FOR IT WITH OUR OWN BLOOD AND SACRIFICE...AND FOR WHAT???!?!?!!??!!???

TELL ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


reply posted on 28-8-2009 @ 05:34 PM by David9176
reply to post by RRconservative





I would still feel safer in Afghanistan that out on our nation's roadways, where on average 3,100 people every month lose there lives.


RR...it looks like you are trying to justify the loss of soldiers even though you may not be.

We have now lost almost 6000 soldiers.....not to mention 1000's of innocent civilians....and for what?

Our borders are unsecured and our deficit is exploding.

It's time to bring them home and REALLY protect you, me, and our families.....not send our brothers and sisters to death.


reply posted on 28-8-2009 @ 05:37 PM by Kords21
I freely admit that I fell for the pro-war, post 9/11 fervor. I was in the military at that time and was deployed to Kuwait in medical support of the OIF. When I was transferred to the Army Burn unit and saw first hand the high price/cost of this war. That was when I started to question everything and led me down the proverbial rabbit hole. All of this needless loss of life on both sides for what? So the CIA can make profits in the Afghan poppy/heroin trade? So we can have "cheap oil" out of Iraq? Last I checked gas prices are way up from what they were before the war. I think Ron Paul put it best in this debate with Huckabee:



So how many lives does it take to "save face"? At what point does the US and it's "allies" say we heave victory and come home. After 8 years and trillons of dollars spent in Afghanistan what has it gotten us? The supposed mastermind Bin Laden is still "loose". most likely dead, our country bankrupt, the patriot act taking the rights of the citizens away in the name of security and Afghanistan is a huge mess of corruption at the highest levels. Didn't Obama campaign on ending all of these wars and all he's doing is expanding them and wasting more money and pointless lives. I admitted that I was fooled by Bush and I have seen/treated severe suffering as a result. When will Obama supporters admit they were fooled? Let's hope we don't have to see suffering on the same scale that I have.


reply posted on 28-8-2009 @ 05:45 PM by David9176
reply to post by Kords21



Kords21.....man.

I love RP....no man spoke more truth than in that video.

Bring them troops home. Save our soldiers. Save civilians.

Honor them by bringing them home.

End this.

BTW...thank you for your service....and I'm absolutely grateful that you see things as you do.

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reply posted on 28-8-2009 @ 05:52 PM by KSPigpen
And 'paying for it' we are.... in 2006, back when killing innocent people was much less expensive, we were spending $18,000 per MINUTE to rape another sovereign nation. Source

I'm having a difficult time even finding CURRENT estimates.

We're not supposed to be paying attention to that though. It's not about the cost, that could have better supported our country internally. It's not about the men and women who won't be coming home alive. It's not about the children dying over there because of us. It's about being 'safe' from those pesky terrorists.

Come on, admit it, you feel safe.


reply posted on 28-8-2009 @ 06:02 PM by David9176


It's not right.

Was 3000 civilians a good trade for 6000 soldiers and countless civilians....and who knows how many children????

I dont' want to pay for this......i don't want to pay for the deaths of good men, women, and children.

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reply posted on 28-8-2009 @ 06:50 PM by kyred
reply to post by David9176



More military personnel engaging more enemies, equates to more deaths of said military personnel. That's how it works. And, more enemies, which an admiral has recently commented on, means more engagements. It's war, folks.

Pardon my spelling of personnel. I woud rather all things be personal.

It's war. And it's unwarranted.

Regroup, America. Make trade agreements. Not war agreements. And implement trade agreements so profitable, that the countries that you are involved with, must be the entities who control their own resources, for their prosperity.

It's all reallly easy.


reply posted on 28-8-2009 @ 07:18 PM by David9176
reply to post by kyred





Regroup, America. Make trade agreements. Not war agreements. And implement trade agreements so profitable, that the countries that you are involved with, must be the entities who control their own resources, for their prosperity. It's all reallly easy.


Well stated...unfortunately....so easily ignored.

End NAFTA and increase tariffs....enforce antitrust laws....protect our borders, control the fed....and by all mean PROTECT AMERICAN WORKERS.

Damn...isn't that what we all want?
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