Disclaimer: As above!
UPFRONT APOLOGY!: Sorry for neglecting this thread! As the OP I should perform a better service to my fellow ATS members! :shk: me a total
Explanation: Thanks to all who bumped this thread!
Special kudos to Phage for his inquisitive post!
Time to deoderize this skunk!
Q1] Does the chicken have to survive and/or return to the surface?
A1] Yes if its sent live [no if cooked!] and return isn't required yet for full orbital shots, but is required for sub orbital shots.
Q2] If the poultry is to remain alive, how many orbits will be required?
A2] Orbital requirement: Nil regardless of live/cooked status of payload! Lets just go for a basic straight up shot that has to reach 100km min in
height as measured from sea level! If we can get there then we can worry about orbital mechanics etc.
Q3] If its state of animation is not an issue but a return is required, does the condition of the carcass matter?
A3] This is all orbital mechanics again and we don't even know if we can achieve a basic straight up suborbital space shot. But if we do get that far
then yes I would want to return a live payload specimen as whole and as well as could be reasonably expected under the technical and feasability
circumstances and or restrictions imposed and perscribed by my OP above.
Q4] Should it be edible after re-entry and recovery?
A4] Regardless of live/cooked prelaunch status and if we get that far then yes a recovered/recoverable uncontaminated/unadulterated usable return
payload specimen would be prefered! Or we could agree to cook the specimen some how during or after lift off. It all depends how fancy we want to be
and how far we want to push that envelope.
Q5] Do the same parameters for success apply should an ovum be selected in lieu of a fowl.
A5] Regardless of payload the min requirement for success is "To supply a biological specimen to a height of 100km as measured from sea level by way
of a vehical/rocket designed to utilize earthquake,volcanic and mid to low tech methods."
Q6] Ah, that is the question - which do you send into space first, the chicken or the egg?
A6] Lets go the egg for starters for several reasons...1stly ethical: it can be unfertilized and that might just kybosh any moral squeemishness
especially if I were to suggest a post safe return investigative autopsy!
2ndly logistically: For its inherent low mass and comes with bonus protective shell for free!
So that wraps up the important Q's that were asked! So to summarize the basic parmeters....
Payload: Unfertilized fowl egg. mass = 50grams
Orbit type: Suborbital 100km min height from sea level required.
Return payload status requirement: Recoverable and usable for experimentation. Unwanted contaminations should be kept to a minimum.
Design parameters: Seismic, Volcanic, Clockwork, Spring, Steam, Other Jules Verne types of launch systems in combo or individually. Anybody can decide
and design their system and post it here and let everybody consider it and I'll post my own system for scrutiny.
Ok moving on I have noticed that the naysayers are strangely absent
But just in case anybody doubts the scientific possibility and technical
feasability of what I'm proposing then here is my proof of concept evidence.
1stly the Amish aren't luddites at all and can even use electricity,generators,taxis etc if approved and required. The only real kybosh to this
project that I have found was under Ordnung
specifically "Examples of Practices Prohibited by the
"air transportation" and as this is an Amish [tech] Inspired thread and NOT an Amish [law] Required thread RE:
Jules Verne From the Earth to the
tech limitation in my OP above, this restriction is to be overruled for the purpose of this thread.
More links on Amish for those who are interested and have the time...
wiki link Amish
Technology Practice and Technological Change
Now I began to ask myself some serious questions as to the seismic
aspects to this technical problem.
I found answers in these sources....
IMPORTANT BASIC stuff...
Re: Is there enough power released by these natural phenomena to be
Volcanic Explosivity Index
Re: Yes! Heaps!
Re: real analogue basis for conceptual spacecraft.
The Lunar Volcanic Theory of Tektites
Re: It might be possible!
Re: Volcanic ejecta field?
wiki Australian Strewnfield
Re: Volcanic ejecta field?
RE: Possible non terrestrial volcanic ejecta.
Re: They existed and were active...once upon a time.
of motion and ballistic paths of volcanic ejecta Re: Equatorial launch gains
Re: Possible volcano type candidate for launch system.
Plate Tectonics Map
Re: Usefull map
How they work Re: Going to
need to know this.
Re: And use these!
Re: And these!
Seiemic Dampeners Patent.
Tuned Mass Dampener
Re: Or this!
More to come........See Next Post!