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Voight: Is Obama creating a civil war in America?

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posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 09:34 AM
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Inside the Beltway


www.washingtontimes.com

"There's a real question at stake now. Is President Obama creating a civil war in our own country?" Mr. Voight tells Inside the Beltway.

"We are witnessing a slow, steady takeover of our true freedoms. We are becoming a socialist nation, and whoever can't see this is probably hoping it isn't true. If we permit Mr. Obama to take over all our industries, if we permit him to raise our taxes to support unconstitutional causes, then we will be in default. This great America will become a paralyzed nation."
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posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 09:34 AM
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That's funny since we never heard those guys talk like that when Bush was in office...

But potential for civil war is here, economic depression, angryness at the government and extremism on both sides...

But the stage for civil war might be set. If people believe the medias and still think it's about left VS right, or democrats VS republicans.

It's not. It's about freedom VS tyranny. Both parties are in it.

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posted on Aug, 22 2009 @ 12:47 AM
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sniff, sniff (i can smell something in the air). i think a civil is already somewhat happening. gangs vs police. norcal vs norcal industrialists(farmers haha). there is 33 prisons in california. why is society set up to have that many rules, and then to have that many rules broken. mybe were already in a civil war?



posted on Aug, 22 2009 @ 12:52 AM
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You don't recall actors and actresses speaking out against Bush?

If need be I can post a few links for you or you can google it.



posted on Aug, 22 2009 @ 12:53 AM
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Already being discussed here

The title is word per word exact.



posted on Aug, 22 2009 @ 01:08 AM
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It seems to me Obama has done nothing more than Bush did, other than the healthcare overhaul.

That's it. So I don't understand the statement of "taking over industries".


It does raise the question though: if citizens are considered "extremists" and a "threat" because of their actions and beliefs when it comes to the constitution (which Bush already pretty much destroyed, where was the argument then huh?) then what does that make Obama for creating this problem by offering confusing and contradictory information on this issue?

Surely this means the govt. is inciting violence? And therefore a threat to national security?

This does go a lot deeper than just being about healthcare. And many can complain all they like and deny it has anything to do with losing a Republican government or racism etc. But you only have to look at the lack of argument against what Bush did to destroy America.

Funny how a republican govt. can shred the constitution and face a little flack from the left, and then Obama tries to reform healthcare (albeit badly) and suddenly it's all about defending the constitution!

Can anyone say Hypocrites?



posted on Aug, 22 2009 @ 01:39 AM
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There is a war coming. But it isn't going to be fought over ideologies. It is going to be a class war where you are going to have the haves and the have nots fighting. It is going to be triggered by even more economic hard times to come and the elimination of the middle class. When this happens you will see an up rising in this country where we are going to not fight for the freedoms that are slowly being eroded away by the government, but also break free from the economic slavery that they have imposed on us.



posted on Aug, 22 2009 @ 01:41 AM
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bs. Your freedoms were gone before he got there.
his fault is not giving them back.

Ya know medicare works in canada. It wont work in the states, cause you guys dont put a high enough perceantage into it. you can't without jeaporadizing a defense budget higher than the rest of the world.

can't have your cake and eat it too, fatties!!!!!
..gulp...



posted on Aug, 22 2009 @ 02:21 AM
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Originally posted by heyo
bs. Your freedoms were gone before he got there.
his fault is not giving them back.

Ya know medicare works in canada. It wont work in the states, cause you guys dont put a high enough perceantage into it. you can't without jeaporadizing a defense budget higher than the rest of the world.

can't have your cake and eat it too, fatties!!!!!
..gulp...




No it doesn't work because there is no incentive to work with any government controlled enterprise. Have You even went to the DMV lately? I am serious every time I go I see 5 people standing around on my dime while 2 - 3 people actually work. See government employees are protected by a union. They can pretty much not be fired and only have to show up to get a check. So why on earth would I want that for my medical? I guess You canadians haven't figured out that throwing money at a problem doesn't fix it all it does is attract the sharks.



posted on Aug, 22 2009 @ 03:03 AM
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you're shirking the issue. hostpitals are overworked and underpaid. my dad's some sort of administrative RN or something. he now works private.

the issue is, minorites like me. White, canadian, beer drinkin' me. I call'em black or white. they like me cause i don't talk about race. I feel no need to bow down to those who've found a way to manipulate the generosity of society.

the issue is, we have more than two parties.
I voted for the ndp, the progressive liberals lol, but they never win.
...how has america wasted their vote?

the issue is, the percentage of our gdp spent on health care dwarfs all other programs.

the issue is, we frown on welfare.
I was raised on welfare till i was fourteen. I have a younger bro and two yonger sisters. I was changing diapers, babysitting, and hashing out punishment to the kids since nine years old. single mom.
oh, now that i said single mom it's all of a sudden different to you americans, isn't it.....

the issue is, you guys down there let your insecurites get in the way of the issues. I was raised on welfare but i'd vote, from what i've seen, to abolish it, or make it way more aggressive. One might wonder how i can feel that way and still vote NDP, which is the equivalent to progressive liberal. Well, it's cause i'll be goddamned if there are only two parties left here telling me what to do.

the issue is americans are so friggin' pc in their decisions that it makes dealing with issues a social suicide.
if there's one thing i've learned it's never, ever cause an americans delicate psyche to look in any sort of mirror.
.....i needed two shots of whiskey before posting this....
much love,
canadian conservative.



posted on Aug, 22 2009 @ 05:01 AM
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I'm hoping for a two state solution so that Americans can be busy fighting Americans instead of bringing carnage to other nations due its over spenditure on defence.



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