reply to post by fraterormus
Wow - you just made an entire list of assumptions based on no research which is almost entirely fictitious. And rather than just immediately
retorting that oh yes you have, you've read lots and blah blah - be really honest with yourself - you haven't read anything of a serious nature
which contradicts the world view you WANT to have.
Let me begin - the current production of food by countries such as the US what is known as Industrial farming - it is also the result of several
technological breakthroughs in hybridization which averted catastrophic starvation predicted in the 70's through overpopulation and food scarcity.
Last year the world for the first time in many years since this revolution underproduced food.
Further if we were to shift from industrial farming to "sustainable" farming then our output would be more sustainable and environmentally sound but
HUGELY less that what it is currently.
Further vast areas of the planet are facing water shortages and over the next two decades there will be a reduction of water supply of such huge
magnitude that there will - without doubt - be global endemics of starvation.
Pakistan, northern India and large parts of western China and regions of the "Stans"" all rely on glacial melt water - we are talking hundreds of
millions of people who are simply going to starve to death in two to three decades as the glacial melt waters retreat to trickle. You would have to
have desalination plants the size of the moon to rectify this.
The American mid west is also going to start returning to the dust bowl it once was - there is a reason why people don't live in the desert.
The Colorado river is no longer a river, but simply an irrigation channel which is being used at full capacity - it is retreating very quickly and the
consequences will be massive over the coming years.
Further the artesian basin in India has also been literally drained by cheap pumps from japan over the past two decades - the consequences for this
are also going to be catastrophic - the basin is replenished by the monsoon however it is becoming more and more erratic - with devastating flooding
which is causing run off (as seen this year) and then years of very low yield.
Further the industrial scale farming, which produces hundreds of times more than traditional, sustainable farming, has also devastated the arable land
- vast areas are being lost to salinity and in fact is already dead and relies solely on fertilizer produced from petrochemical production. This is
also producing what is known as dead zones - vast tracts of the worlds oceans are dead through fertilizer run off causing algae blooms which in turn
feed plankton and bacterial blooms - these starve the ocean of oxygen and kill every living creature in it for hundreds of miles .
Again, the oceans are also being rapaciously depleted with industrial fishing ships, literally permanent floating fish factories dredging the
remaining ocean stocks to feed an insatiable global population - there is literally no way we could supply even a small fraction of a percentage of
fish the ocean supplies artificially - even then we would do it untold harm, most fish farms already really on fish food which is highly destructive
to the ocean both in its origin and its consequences. Tuna, anchovy, sardine, and cod are all at critical levels - these were fish so abundant that
one could literally walk across the water on them (see the book Salt). Vast areas of the world rely on the ocean for sustenance, humans evolved along
the coast line for a reason -
Further 300 football fields a day are being cleared from Indonesia to make way for Palm oil, the Amazon basin is being decimated for crops and of
course beef - both of these areas are tropical, which means the soil is exceptionally fragile and once exposed has only one or two rotations before it
Further Australia, which has been for a long time a major global grain producer is starting to fail as a producer, drought ravaged this country for
well over ten years and is expected to return.
I'm sorry for being so harsh on your assumptions but they are misguided ideological myths which have no basis in reality - what is required to bring
about the water and food required to sustain the current human population is literally impossible, the shift required into production and fueling
desalination plants and mineral extraction for construnction coupled with the variation in productive labor would send humanity into a cataclysmic
pollution spiral, we would be forced back into an agrarian lifestyle of the most impoverished imaginable.
Also be aware that countries such as Japan, Saudi Arabia, UAE and many others have been buying vast areas of fertile countries in the third world for
food production - yes literally purchasing the land from the entire nation to ensure their own survival as they know food is going to become major
Here are some resources for you : Please take the time to become informed rather than spreading misguided ideology.