His primary goal is to wipe out the private insurance industry and replace it with government dependence.

They want total control over the medical system.

With this issue alone, how could any person that is sane not know this lie when you hear it.
On more than one occasion, I know there are at least four videos of him out there, he has said and pushed with pride about single payer.
Now, in the last six months he has changed his belief?

BS!

He is just flat out telling a lie!

That part about the pain killers chilled me to the bone. What would they do to my grandfather who, bless his heart, is alive and living with several chonic conditions.

Heck, extrapolate out a little while and what would they say to me, who could really use jaw surgery, but could just take pain killers the rest of my life?

Originally posted by CeltAngel
That part about the pain killers chilled me to the bone.

Chills run down my arms...each time I watch it! I still can hardly believe he has the nerve to say such a cold, hard hearted thing!

As someone who works in Healthcare, specifically home health for special needs kids I despise this man and his ilk on so many levels. Yes there are problems in the current system, that is not in dispute. This mad dash to "cut costs" while this system kills people, let's call it what it is. While the current system does have a profit component in it, at least the overall goal in the confines of the Dr./Patient relationship is to help the patient. Under this gov't run healthcare, it'll become an industry of death and valuing money over someone's life. If/when this nightmare passes I might have to rethink my profession. I'm in this field to help people, not save money and just give people pills with a "Happy Trails" send off. If you think the current system is bad, just wait until healthcare workers from nurses to Dr's start leaving in droves.

The one thing I haven't heard brought up is the fact that the majority of the people bringing you "Healthcare reform" are the same people that brought us the housing problem. The claim then was "Everyone needs affordable housing" Acron would then pressure banks to give sub-prime loans and look at where we're at today. Look at the succes of the public education system. Government is not the soultion, the Government is the problem. If anyone truly believes that the gov't is the best outfit to fix/run healthcare, then they are seriously deluded.

This is a very complex problem and if we as a nation are serious about fixing it, then we need to take our time, rethink the current role of tax (the federal reserve and such) and fix the overall situation where people have jobs so they can make a decent life. If this thing passes in the current economic climate, sure you'll be working for nothing, won't have any savings but you'll have the best damn healthcare the gov't can give you as long as you're productive.

Originally posted by mnemeth1
His primary goal is to wipe out the private insurance industry and replace it with government dependence.

They want total control over the medical system.

amazing...the private health insurance industry has been doing this for years...through denial of claims...and people have died from not getting the money from their insurance companies.

this is what obama is trying to fix. those insurance companies have made enough profits off of pain and death and i don't give a d@mn if they all go out of business.

if president obama can keep the insurance companies from letting people die...i'm all for it.

also amazing is how the MSM doesn't interview the millions of people that have been hurt by these companies, but spend days and days showing a few hundred people in these town hall meetings yelling and screaming.

don't any of you people see this?? doesn't this raise any critical thought, or logic?

Why stop at healthcare? Let's have the gov't be in total control of the food, housing and every other aspect of your life. These protesters aren't just debating healthcare and that's it, they're telling the gov't to stay out of their life. Just maybe people can manage thier lives better than some gov't official somewhere can. If we as a country can stop being slaves to bankers through the income tax, federal reserve maybe people could afford the things in their life. The overall system we have now makes gov't control of aspects of our life as something people see as viable. I think that's a pretty sad commentary in and of itself. We'll never have true reform unitl we deal with our money system and take it out of the hands of private bankers. As long as the bankers control the money, having a viable heatlhcare reform program will never work out for all people, no matter who is in power.

For almost two years now, Obama has been used to having the MSM, and ultimately the media BELIEVE whatever he says.
Fortunately, gravity has taken over, and what goes up must eventually go down. He has said so much to so many different people, that eventually he HAD to get caught in his lies. It actually started last year when he told an audience of left wing nuts in San Fran sicko that old white people cling to their religion and guns when things go bad. Of course, he didn't realize that his words were being recorded. He lied his way out of it, but some of us knew that he was not what he seemed to be.
Now, only blind left wingers and MSNBC, with his mentor's daughter, Mika Brzezinski 's gang, including Mathews and Olbermann, believe him, or don't really care that he is lying.
Anyone that now believes ANYTHING that he says should get an MRI to look for a serious problem within their brain. Maybe Obama will pay for the MRI.
Great thread. S & F. The more he is exposed, the more he looks like the emperor without any clothing.
We need to continue to expose him for what he is, a lying narcissist who will say anything and everything to try to get his way. He has no moral compass, and would even sell out his own family in order to get his way. Mark my words, even his own family is fair game with him. If I were his family, I would not turn my back on him, in a figurative manner of speaking.

This is exactly why Palin called it a "death panel". Although I think she used the most extreme name she could think of for it, essentially she's right.

Whenever you have a government-run panel of experts deciding whom should receive surgery, whom should receive more pills, etc., you have the government deciding life and death situations.

So....who's going to pay for all of the rehab Americans are going to need to get off of the pain pills???