posted on May, 11 2004 @ 01:30 AM
One of the recurring themes in the news of American maltreatment of Iraqi POWs is that the M.P.'s were acting under the direction of 'civilian
I worked for a number of years in jail/law enforcement in a large southern state. Several things stand out in the news stories I have seen.
1) The soldiers originally claimed that they were asked by civilian agents (CIA/NSA) to work the POW's over, to "fear them up." No experienced
jailer would ever agree to play 'bad cop' for another agency. Such a request is an invitation to be framed for someone else's crime. I
occasionally had other agencies ask me or others to do this in a civilian jail, and the request was always laughed at, and refused point blank.
2) M.P.'s, like civilian jailers, are not allowed to participate in the interrogation of prisoners. The soldier currently up on charges was
referred to by a national guard/reservist buddy as a "damn fine mechanic." (!) Did any of these M.P.'s have ANY jail experience? In a force of
100,000 Americans, you will simply by statistical probability, find some people with jail experience. So who puts inexperienced guards over problem
inmates? Further, why would the CIA, etc., use inexperienced guards? Obviously, because greenhorns would be ignorant of jail policy, and thus easier
3) The American soldiers claim they were told that by participating in this 'hazing,' they would be helping to extract valuable info. But look
at the pictures. They have zero intelligence or intimidation value. In most of them, the prisoners are masked, hooded, or looking away. The
pictures don't demean anyone but U.S. soldiers. The average P.O.W. can tell his family he was in another part of the jail, and so was not abused.
But the Americans are smiling and waving at the camera. I helped conduct numerous investigations in civilian jails, and never once wittingly posed
for a photo (out of fear of inmate reprisal.) I also made sure my co-workers didn't appear on film, unless we were videoing evidence we PLANNED TO
PRESENT IN COURT! Notice that not one "Civilian intelligence operative" appears in the photos. Were they holding the camera?
4) The pictures frequently show petite women in control of naked males; utterly unthinkable in Semitic cultures. In these particular photos, the
males face is covered. Such pix have no intel or intimidation value, but are the most inflammatory scenes imaginable to Arab (and Israeli . . ?)
5) The family of one of the soldiers sent letters to 17 different Senators, as far back as Feb 2004, but got absolutely no response. Then
suddenly, a week ago, the story gets the greenlight in both congress and the media. This story has totally overwhelmed the real intelligence
earthquake: U.S. forces have found evidence that three nations made hundred-billion dollar under-the-table deals with Saddam in the U.N.'s "Food
for Oil" program. Those three nations are China, Russia, and France. Each of them holds a seat on the U.N. security council, and claims to be a
U.S. ally, although each opposed the invasion vehemently.
So, Why was civilian Intel running an operation in this prison? Were these P.O.W.'s officers, or in charge of WMD? What was the objective, for
which Iraqi civil rights, and U.S. army careers finally sacrificed?
Why wouldn't the civilian intel use civilians to "extract" information from prisoners? If they had high level or sensitive intel to yield,
why weren't they held in a CIA/civilian facility? Don't tell me that the new "Iraqi Police" couldn't have feared up these prisoners even more
professionally than bumbling Americans.
Why is this story breaking NOW? Why are Senators acting so shocked NOW, when some of them were mailed this evidence 3 months ago, and possibly
briefed in the NSC 2 weeks ago?
Why are Iraqi clerics, even anti-U.S. clerics, questioning the validity of the photos in Arab newspapers?????
[Edited on 11-5-2004 by Seekerof]