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Originally posted by Daisy-Lola
Well to answer that, you need to have a being observe this from a separate dimension
Or, you could accept that they're man made.
Originally posted by Daisy-Lola
Well to answer that, you need to have a being observe this from a separate dimension
Or, you could accept that they're man made.
Originally posted by Total Package
Originally posted by Daisy-Lola
Well to answer that, you need to have a being observe this from a separate dimension
Or, you could accept that they're man made.
"Or, you could accept that they're man made." And of course your proof that they are all man made is............. that's right you have no proof apart from a couple of guys who said they made some... even though the ones they have faked look nothing like the real crop circles and have the properties of the crop circles.
Originally posted by Razimus
reply to post by Donnie Darko
I've said it before I'll say it again, crop circles are made by bored 3rd dimensional human artists, did I say drunk rednecks? no, man built the pyramids, we sure as hell can flatten some wheat and grass into any formation we want, I know my stance is very unpopular, but I see it as not only the most likely scenario but the only scenario, there is lots of evidence proving humans have made these in the past, there is zero evidence anything else has created them, thus the collection of data greatly shows who is making it. If you must know why, try doing a search on the various crop circle building groups on the net. I can't even get started with 4th dimensional aspects, the coolest cropcircle hoax I saw was the one where some show or some guy set up gold, silver and copper plates in the middle of circles of a cropcircle, the 'alien' created plates with 'alien' symbols on them were melted down because hell, alien made or not alien made, space cash or not gold is gold and it's worth a lot, ramble city I appologize.
Originally posted by Razimus
reply to post by Donnie Darko
I've said it before I'll say it again, crop circles are made by bored 3rd dimensional human artists, did I say drunk rednecks? no, man built the pyramids, we sure as hell can flatten some wheat and grass into any formation we want, I know my stance is very unpopular, but I see it as not only the most likely scenario but the only scenario, there is lots of evidence proving humans have made these in the past, there is zero evidence anything else has created them, thus the collection of data greatly shows who is making it. If you must know why, try doing a search on the various crop circle building groups on the net. I can't even get started with 4th dimensional aspects, the coolest cropcircle hoax I saw was the one where some show or some guy set up gold, silver and copper plates in the middle of circles of a cropcircle, the 'alien' created plates with 'alien' symbols on them were melted down because hell, alien made or not alien made, space cash or not gold is gold and it's worth a lot, ramble city I appologize.
Originally posted by Donnie Darko
Originally posted by Razimus
reply to post by Donnie Darko
I've said it before I'll say it again, crop circles are made by bored 3rd dimensional human artists, did I say drunk rednecks? no, man built the pyramids, we sure as hell can flatten some wheat and grass into any formation we want, I know my stance is very unpopular, but I see it as not only the most likely scenario but the only scenario, there is lots of evidence proving humans have made these in the past, there is zero evidence anything else has created them, thus the collection of data greatly shows who is making it. If you must know why, try doing a search on the various crop circle building groups on the net. I can't even get started with 4th dimensional aspects, the coolest cropcircle hoax I saw was the one where some show or some guy set up gold, silver and copper plates in the middle of circles of a cropcircle, the 'alien' created plates with 'alien' symbols on them were melted down because hell, alien made or not alien made, space cash or not gold is gold and it's worth a lot, ramble city I appologize.
so just because some people make fake crop circles, mean every single one is fake?
by that logic, just because some diamonds are lab made, there must be no natural diamonds, right?
Originally posted by Razimus
reply to post by Donnie Darko
I've said it before I'll say it again, crop circles are made by bored 3rd dimensional human artists, did I say drunk rednecks? no, man built the pyramids, we sure as hell can flatten some wheat and grass into any formation we want,
Originally posted by Donnie Darko
"Or, you could accept censorship."
"Or, you could accept the gas chamber."
Originally posted by Total Package
"Or, you could accept that they're man made." And of course your proof that they are all man made is............. that's right you have no proof apart from a couple of guys who said they made some... even though the ones they have faked look nothing like the real crop circles and have the properties of the crop circles.
Originally posted by Daisy-Lola
I stated you 'could' accept that all of them are made by humans. What you decided to read is that you MUST accept.
You accept that not all the crop circles are man made in the same way I accept that all are made by humans. You're fighting your own arguments with that type of post.
There is more evidence of humans creating them, than there is of aliens, or even aliens creating them.
You underestimate your own species for deviousness and/or ingeniousness. Just because you can't fathom how something is done, does not make it supernatural
Originally posted by Total Package
Originally posted by Daisy-Lola
I stated you 'could' accept that all of them are made by humans. What you decided to read is that you MUST accept.
You accept that not all the crop circles are man made in the same way I accept that all are made by humans. You're fighting your own arguments with that type of post.
There is more evidence of humans creating them, than there is of aliens, or even aliens creating them.
You underestimate your own species for deviousness and/or ingeniousness. Just because you can't fathom how something is done, does not make it supernatural
Could you do me a favour. Could you show me the evidence you have that shows that there is "more evidence of human's creating them" please.
I await your findings.
Originally posted by Total Package
Could you do me a favour. Could you show me the evidence you have that shows that there is "more evidence of human's creating them" please.
I await your findings.
it was still said in an arrogant, "you're wrong" fashion
Originally posted by Donnie Darko
Not sure if anyone is familiar with "Flatland", but in the short film, there is a model of a cube that is positioned against the 2D world of Flatland and proves the existence of the other dimension.
Now is it possible, that Crop Circles are a similar apparition from a higher dimension, laid over our 3D/4D world?
Originally posted by Gordi The Drummer
I like the "Flatland" analogy as a simple way of demonstrating dimensions. It makes it really easy for anyone (everyone) to understand the basic concept of what is meant by "2-dimensional" "3-D" etc
The 3-D shadow of a 4-D object is maybe harder for some to grasp?
(But dont ya just love the look of that thing?? lol)
Many years ago, in a school science class, whilst discussing "Brownian motion" - the random movement of particles observed suspended in a gas or liquid - It struck me that the individual particles we looked at, during the school class, displayed motion which resembled that of the stars and planetary bodies in our own solar system.
Some orbiting others, some forming groups which directly interacted with one another, and some just seemingly passing through!
It was then that I thought... what if...
What if the 4th dimension was simply one of scale?
What if the tiny particles I had observed in school science classes, were actually massive planets, stars, whole galaxies etc in the next dimension "in".
What if our own planet, our solar system and the many known galaxies, were simply the tiniest of particles, in a test tube, in a science class, in the next dimension "out"
The sheer difference in scale, would make it impossible for anything existing in any single dimension, to be able to comprehend what actually exists in the "next" dimension. We could not possibly "point" to the next dimension out, because it would be, quite literally, all around us. (Omnipotence??? lol)
We "know" that the solids, liquids and gases of our world are made up of these tiny particles... but given the limits of our observational technology, what do we really "know" about those particles?
Likewise, we can gaze many light years out into the deep void of space... but this might equate to the square root of diddly-squat on the measuring tape of the next dimension out!
Could this explain why space (and time) are boundless?
Does it hint at the source of the omnipotent nature of god(s)?
Maybe the Big Bang was someone opening a can of pespi in the next dimension out??
enjoy!
(I'm now ducking down behind the sofa, to avoid the anticipated barrage of disparaging comments!!!)
OHHH, and How Much does Carl Sagan sound like Agent Smith from The Matrix movies???? "Mister Anderson...... This is merely a shadow..." lol
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