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Stimulus Bill Funds Go to Art Houses Showing 'Pervert' Revues, Underground Pornography

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posted on Jul, 30 2009 @ 08:35 PM
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The National Endowment for the Arts may be spending some of the money it received from the Recovery and Reinvestment Act to fund nude simulated-sex dances, Saturday night "pervert" revues and the airing of pornographic horror films at art houses in San Francisco.

The NEA was given $80 million of the government's $787 billion economic stimulus bill to spread around to needy artists nationwide, and most of the money is being spent to help preserve jobs in museums, orchestras, theaters and dance troupes that have been hit hard by the recession.

But some of the NEA's grants are spicing up more than the economy. A few of their more risque choices have some taxpayer advocates hot under the collar, including a $50,000 infusion for the Frameline film house, which recently screened Thundercrack, "the world's only underground kinky art porno horror film, complete with four men, three women and a gorilla."

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Yet another example of stimulus funds not being used to actually stimulate the economy. The arts are important, and these people get to keep their jobs, but I don't think this is what anyone had in mind when they were talking about sending out government funds to stimulate the economy.

I must admit it's a rather amusing example though.
I'm just at a loss for words after reading this one..




posted on Jul, 30 2009 @ 08:47 PM
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DAMN! This shuold make CNN headlines!!! Now i know we are in trouble; (
Is obama, head n cheif in staff aware of this? He should be! I guess this is the outcome, of ocngress not doing their job, and reading everything before a bill is passed
Damn imgaine that....millions of people can loose everything they worked up to and for, and here we are..forfully giving out money to underground immoral standards industry..guess the feds see that more important than human life hugh



posted on Jul, 30 2009 @ 08:54 PM
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Thats completely ridiculous... the porn industry is the LAST industry that needs to be receiving those funds.

And really $80 Billion for arts? I wasn't aware that this was an area in which we needed to be diverting emergency stimulous money...

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posted on Jul, 30 2009 @ 09:03 PM
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What are you people doing??? You are all discussing how the "stimulus" bill is a bold faced lie!!! You are exposing the hypocracy of this administration.

OMG (Obama Mighty Grace)

Why aren't you all discussing how wonderful some arrogant elitist professor and Obama are having a beer with a racist cop?

You people aren't paying attention to the script!

Next thing you know, people will be demanding to read or have their representatives read the bills that they are trying to shove down our throats.
You crazy, independant thinking, freedom loving, nut jobs.

Just for that, your punishments will be three months in an Obama Thinking Camp.



posted on Jul, 30 2009 @ 09:20 PM
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Originally posted by ziggy1706
I guess this is the outcome, of ocngress not doing their job, and reading everything before a bill is passed


Yep, this is only one example of things that go wrong when Congress doesn't actually read what they are voting into law. Makes me almost afraid to see what else is being funded by the stimulus bill.

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Originally posted by XTexan
And really $80 Billion for arts? I wasn't aware that this was an area in which we needed to be diverting emergency stimulous money...


I wasn't either. Like I said, the arts are important but come on now. It is nice to know that when all else fails there will still be porn though isn't it? Much more important than oh, I don't know, the thousands of people losing their jobs or any other pesky problems like that.

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Originally posted by mikerussellus
What are you people doing??? You are all discussing how the "stimulus" bill is a bold faced lie!!! You are exposing the hypocracy of this administration.

. . .

Next thing you know, people will be demanding to read or have their representatives read the bills that they are trying to shove down our throats.
You crazy, independant thinking, freedom loving, nut jobs.


Sorry, I tried to ad lib cause I forgot my lines. It won't happen again, I swear! Just don't send me to the training camp.



posted on Jul, 30 2009 @ 09:40 PM
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I'm sorry. I already turned you all in. As my reward, I get double rations of cheese and three pairs of used socks.

-joy-

Christmas comes early this year!




posted on Jul, 30 2009 @ 09:43 PM
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A Fox News Source...well, we all see what angle this is coming from.

Let's see...the GOP doesn't have a leg to stand on right now so they are scraping the bottom of the barrel looking for anything they can use to do their traditional mudslinging rather than come up with an original plan to redeem themselves in the eyes of the majority of the American populace. Well, that's helpful GOP & Fox News. Nice to know that when the economy is in the dumps you're there to put differences aside and work to solve the problem rather than look for excuses you can use for ammunition...oh wait...you are looking for excuses you can use for ammunition rather than putting differences aside and working to solve problems.

Let's look at this rationally. Fox News is bickering over $50,000 in Government Funds out of $787,000,000,000.00 that was spent in this Stimulus, or for the mathematically challenged, that's .00000000635%. That's even worse than bickering over the actual cash value of a coupon being 1/100th of a cent! Or put into another perspective, kind of like complaining that out of the $5,000,000,000.00 we gave the CIA for Operations they spent $3176.00 (or .00000000635%) of that budget on Coffee!

It is not for any Government to micromanage it's Agencies. There has to be a certain level of trust. Congress can't constantly be asking the NSA and the CIA and DHS whether they are using the funds they approved for them on Folgers in their respective Commissaries or on Organic Equal Exchange Gourmet Coffee instead. You leave those kinds of decisions to the discretion of the individual Agencies to decide how they should use every minute .00000000635% of their Budget.

And what was done here is no different. Congress isn't qualified to be making micromanagement decisions in the Arts. Some might think a Mel Gibson US Patriot Memorial Film Festival would be a good use of funding for the Arts, while others might think that money would be better spent on the AK-47 in Art History Exhibit would be a much better use of those same funds. Congress has a difficult enough time coming to mutual agreement on anything as it is...you don't need them to be deadlocked on micromanaging how .00000000635% of their approved Budget is used. So, to keep the country from coming to a standstill during this time of Economic Crisis they give the National Endowment of the Arts the check and tell them "Spend it wisely to promote the Arts because you are more qualified than a bunch of stuffy Upper Class WASPs who've never even been to an Art Gallery other than to get wasted on Champagne while hob-nobbing it with the Elite."

And that was the proper thing to do. Leave the Art decisions to the Artists!

Just because some puritanical GOP Republican spouting off wholesome Christian Family Values while he's having an affair with some Argentinian woman on the side doesn't understand how naked men posing in strange positions could be considered Art and is somehow pornographic doesn't make what Congress did wrong. If they have a beef with the showing of sausage then they should take it up with the National Endowment of the Arts where that decision was made and who I'm sure will defend their decision.

There are a lot bigger problems facing America right now than how $50,000 was spent on an Art House in San Francisco where if you don't live there, you probably aren't going to understand it anyway. Let's talk about $384,000,000,000.00 that was given away to Banks so that they could sell off their assets and give the profit themselves rather than repay the Tax Payers, or the $50,000,000.00 in Tax Payer dollars those CEOs that caused the Banks that needed to be bailed out to fail in the first place gave themselves for Bonuses for a job well done.

Rather than be divided we should be working together. Can the GOP and Fox get over themselves for 5 minutes so that we can band together and go after the real crooks who took us to the cleaners for hundreds of billions of dollars rather than quibble over a paltry $50k? Our Nation has bigger fish to fry. You can either join with the rest of us in our Lynching of Merrill Lynch, or regret it come Election 2012. Your choice!



posted on Jul, 30 2009 @ 09:51 PM
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The "angle" as you call it, is reporting that stimulus funds were used not just to support art but that it did indeed fund the showing of porn. I'm not talking about the little shows their putting on, I'm talking about the actual porn flicks they are showing. It's a misuse of funds no matter how you look at it and deserves to be discussed, not have a hand waved at it as though it's unimportant. Showing porn doesn't exactly stimulate the economy, and this is but one example of the asinine things the so called stimulus bill was spent on.

Fox as the source doesn't change the facts contained in the article. Not my fault that no other news source is reporting on it yet.



posted on Jul, 30 2009 @ 10:26 PM
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Originally posted by Jenna
Fox as the source doesn't change the facts contained in the article. Not my fault that no other news source is reporting on it yet.


What facts? That's the reason no other news source will be reporting on it!

The article tries to cast blame on Democrats because Democrats currently control Congress and Congress passed the Stimulus Bill and the Stimulus Bill gave money to various Agencies that spent that money as they saw fit, rather than point the finger at the N.E.A. being the ones who were at fault, if there is any fault to be had.

What is considered "wasteful" is a matter of opinion. I am frankly more peaved about the $75,000,000.00 in the Stimulus Bill used to construct a "security training" facility for State Department Security officers when they can be trained at existing facilities of other agencies. That to me is far more grievously "wasteful" than spending $50,000 supporting an Art House in San Francisco that happens to be currently showing Slasher Zombie Porn Horror Film that stars of all things a gorilla.

Likewise, what is considered "Art" and what is considered "Pornographic" is also a matter of opinion. I consider the Bible to be the most Pornographic piece of literature ever written and would rather my 12 year old daughter read something written by the Marquis de Sade, while others believe the Bible to be the most Artistic form of literature ever composed. Who gets to decide who is right? It's no different than some Upper Class WASP from South Carolina getting all worked up over how Pornographic a Slasher Zombie Porn Horror Film with a gorilla is when some Middle Class GAL folks from San Francisco consider it is most definitely a creative expression of Art. To each their own. What happens in S.F. stays in S.F. just as what happens in Las Vegas stays in Las Vegas. You say Potatoe and I say Potato.

I will never forget the last time I watched a politician deliver a speech on Pornography in Art. It was Donald Rumsfeld talking about how nudity is Pornographic, not Artistic...all while he was standing in front of a marble statue in his office of the goddess Themis, Lady Justice, who had both breasts bared and naked. Oh the irony!



posted on Jul, 30 2009 @ 10:28 PM
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Obama needs to explain to these people that this money wasn't for sexual stimulation.



posted on Jul, 30 2009 @ 10:30 PM
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Dayum! How do I get on this gravy train? I paint disgusting stuff, at least that is what people write in the little books at my exhibits. I guess I must be somewhere in between cutie cute and oh my gawd that is awful!



Gimme a stimulus! Please! I promise I will spend the money on idiotic crap. Crap that has been produced in Amerika. Keep our dollars home!!!

Don't spend your American dollars looking at stripped corpses from China, we can strip our own and keep the money within the USSA.



posted on Jul, 30 2009 @ 11:20 PM
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Originally posted by fraterormus
What facts? That's the reason no other news source will be reporting on it!


Did you read the article? There's a whole bunch of facts in there. If no other source reports on it it'll just be further proof that they're too entrenched in their Obama praising to be bothered with reporting the waste that has come from the stimulus bill.

You're the one trying to turn this into a left/right thing. I posted it because it's an example of funds being spent where they weren't intended to be, and being spent in ways that don't stimulate the economy which was supposedly the reason why we just had to pass the stimulus bill.


Likewise, what is considered "Art" and what is considered "Pornographic" is also a matter of opinion.


When the genre of a movie includes the word "porn" there isn't much opinion about it.


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Apparently you just need to own an art house in San Francisco and show horror porn.


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