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Chemtrails and sodium fluoride.

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posted on Jul, 23 2009 @ 11:45 AM
After reading about sodium fluoride being put into our water supplies and such on this website below , I couldnt help but think this would be a perfect way for them to get rid of more sodium fluoride, mix it with the jet fuel, easy enough to do I would think.

"Historically, this substance was quite expensive for the worlds’ premier chemical companies to dispose of - but in the 50’s and 60’s - Alcoa and the entire aluminum industry - with a vast overabundance of the toxic waste - SOMEHOW sold the FDA and our government on the insane (but highly profitable) idea of buying this poison at a 20,000% markup and then injecting it into our water supply as well as into the nation’s toothpastes and dental rinse"

"The public needs to understand that Sodium Fluoride is nothing more (or less) than a hazardous waste by-product of the nuclear and aluminum industries. In addition to being the primary ingredient in rat and cockroach poisons, it is also a main ingredient in anesthetic, hypnotic, and psychiatric drugs as well as military NERVE GAS! Why, oh why then is it allowed to be added to the toothpastes and drinking water of the American people?"

posted on Jul, 23 2009 @ 12:19 PM
I find this here, worth a listen if you are realy conserned about the chemtrail treason....I know I havent agreed to any form of testing.

- Max Igan American Voice Radio 02/18/09 -

' A true Patriot bends over and takes one for the Government' .. LoLers..

www HolmStead Ca

James E. Phelps studied electrical engineering at the University of Tennessee with his thesis being in core reactor refuelling electronics for breeder reactors. Much of his work was at Oak Ridge National Laboratory, Tennessee (ORNL) which is funded by the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) where he worked in the areas of radiation detection and measurements and site remediation amongst other tasks.

He developed the concept of air pharmacology while working at ORNL. This concept entails "treating" the air with chemicals to mitigate and offset the effects of other toxic chemicals in the air such as hydrogen fluoride and chlorine. The purpose was to lessen the extremely toxic effects of fluoride pollution while not stating that a problem existed to the public. The entire art of pharmacology is about how to add one more toxic effect to mitigate another from industry or environment.

The chemtrail technique is basically air pharmacology - how to add one more pollutant that has some positive synergistic effect against another. Phelps developed this approach while looking at weapons plants worker health effects at ORNL.

Jim has been actively and openly involved in criticism of ORNL and DOE and much related material may be found by searching online and also at his environmental newsletter web site: DOEWatch. There you will find much on "air pharmacology" or "scattering" or "geoengineering" or, in other words, "chemtrails". In his web pages he openly makes the claim of being a whistle blower.

Jim was asked for some opinion on the Shield Project web page and he has provided this short "review":


"I have been asked to comment on the earlier chemtrail question and answer web page regarding the: Shield Project. Here are my thoughts:

Sounds connected pretty close - sounds like one of the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory types.

LLNL (funded by the DOE) is where all the weather and toxic computer science happens in the U.S. They do the EIS [Environmental Impact Statements] for the wars and things. Most of the science and logic "Deep Shield" describes is real close - not perfect. Any errors in the web page version may simply be due to note taking and transcription. Some additional questions could have been asked such as relating to the radiation conversion ionization mechanism of the barium and fluoride.

Keep in mind that the "Star Wars" program and "chemtrails" overlap. The Star Wars program called "Excalibur" uses all the physics connected to the chemtrail effects. Excalibur is a nuclear pumped x-ray LASER system, whose basic operations are the same as those for the Sun's radiation acting on the fluorides in the upper atmosphere. They are so close to each other that both of them use the "shield" term.

This "Deep" person speaks the exact lingo from ORNL in the 80's that was used as the national security justification for the chemtrails and their close association to Star Wars and Ed Teller.

"Deep" refers to the need to keep all this mess secret so as not to panic the planet. What this does is allow them to manipulate things. We all know that for a problem of this magnitude, that in order to fix it, you involve all the peoples of the planet. This process would bring on real global cooperation and peace.

This is basically the time when all the peoples of the world deserve to know the problems and learn to work together. This is the real definition for greater good and bringing on global oneness.

You are headed in that direction of openness and accountability with your web site work and this is good."
Jim Phelps

Stadis 450

The most commonly used commercial turbine jet fuels today are named JET-A, JET-A1, and JET-B. All of these are kerosene type fuels except JET-B which is a kerosene-naphtha blend for colder climates [1, 2]. JET-A is used internationally and JET-A1 is available only in the US. The US military primarily uses its own kerosene jet fuel, JP-8, which is similar to JET-A1 [11, 2].

A number of chemical additives are used in these fuels including corrosion inhibitors, temperature stabilizers, detergents, and static electricity dissipators. Static dissipators are of particular importance to atmospheric aerosol and environmental research, due to their metal content and their widespread use in commercial and military jet fuel [17, 8]. Octel Starreon Stadis® 450 is a static dissipator, comprised of dinonylnapthalene sulfonic acid and other organic solvents, and according to the product MSDS (Material Safety Data Sheet), it contains two “trade secret” ingredients [18]. Stadis 450 is the only approved anti-static additive for use in Air Force aviation fuels, including JP-8, JP-5, JET-A1, and JET-B [9]. DuPont, the original manufacturer, reports having divested its production of Stadis 450 in September of 1994 to Octel Starreon LLC , now a subsidiary of Innospec Fuel Specialties. Innospec also manufactures another static dissipator additive called Statsafe®. However, according to Exxon Mobil, Stadis 450 continues to be the static dissipator of choice for commercial and military aviation [17].

… static dissipator additive is widely used in jet kerosene …. Stadis® 450 is the only additive currently manufactured for use in aviation turbine fuels approved by the major turbine and airframe manufacturers.

Although the “trade secret” ingredients are well protected by the manufacturer, a recent study contracted by the EPA [10] and other sources strongly imply that these ingredients are salts of barium and/or calcium. The EPA classifies this dinonylnaphthalene sulfonic acid, barium salt as a “HPV” (High Production Volume) chemical, meaning it is “produced or imported into the United States in quantities of 1 million pounds or more per year [12].” This same study reports that “Based on the available toxicity results, dinonylnaphthalene sulfonic acid, barium salt appears to be the most biologically active member of the [dinonylnaphthalene] category [10].”

[edit on 23/7/2009 by ChemBreather]

posted on Jul, 23 2009 @ 12:28 PM

...mix it with the jet fuel, easy enough to do I would think.

NO. It would alter the density of the fuel, it would be noticed immediately.

By your logic, it's be better to mix it in with automotive gasoline or diesel fuel....heck of a lot more cars and trucks on the roads!!! AND all that exhaust? Down low to the ground, where it's more effective???

SO...not likely in jet fuel, since jets measure fuel quantity by the density, and thus the weight....NOT in gallons or liters.

AND...the incredible heat of combustion, in a jet engine, approaching 2000 degrees Celsius.

CAR engines are hot too, but not that hot. SO, put the junk in automobile gasoline!!! Just think how much poison you can spread by the cars idling in traffic jams!!!

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