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posted on Jul, 16 2009 @ 02:27 PM
Choronzon is mentioned in the writings recording the magical workings of Edward Kelly/Kelley and John Dee, Kelly describing Choronzon as " that mighty devil ". Aleister Crowley in his book " The Vision and the Voice " (also known as " Liber 418 ") calls Choronzon " the Devil of the Aethyr, that mighty devil Choronzon "[1], the aethyr in question being the tenth (this usage of the word " aethyr ", along with the Enochian language, keys, calls, et cetera, is all derived from previous usage in the work of Dee and Kelly). Crowley also labels Choronzon a demon, and states that the aethyr is accursed. Crowley quotes Choronzon as stating of himself (subsequent to a ritual in which Choronzon is made to manifest himself) that he is Master of Form, that his name is three hundred and thirty-three, and that he is Dispersion[2]. In recent years Choronzon has become popular among practitioners of "chaos magick", who frequently name-check him as a spiritual pal/tutelary deity/object of worship/potential-trouble-source , although with little overall agreement, due to the fact that as a group chaos magicians, like fundamentalist Mormons, are subject to frequent new revelations which belittle and contradict each other.



The Cry Of The Tenth Aethyr
The Cry Of The Tenth Aethyr

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The Vision and the Voice - Liber 418

posted on Jul, 16 2009 @ 02:30 PM
Not sure what to make of all this.....I'll keep an eye out for this until I understand more about what you are talking about.

[edit on 8-15-2009 by William One Sac]

posted on Jul, 16 2009 @ 03:30 PM
I was not aware of this. I will have to ask our esteemed Chorozon his opinion. Since he does have that name.

posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 09:51 AM
On the quabalistic tree of life C(h)oronzon represents the Guardian of the the 2nd veil, who resides in the sphere of Daath.

In the words of Aleister Crowley:

This doctrine is extremely difficult to explain; but it corresponds more or less to the gap in thought between the Real, which is ideal, and the Unreal, which is actual. In the Abyss all things exist, indeed, at least in posse, but are without any possible meaning; for they lack the substratum of spiritual Reality. They are appearances without Law. They are thus Insane Delusions.

The 2nd veil is often referred to as the veil or gateway of the abyss. In order to cross the 2nd veil is requires conquering the Ego and confronting Choronzon. Which magicians state requires the death of ones self or identity.

Here is a tidbit regarding Da'ath:

"Da'ath," the Hebrew word for "knowledge" and the dreadful "False Sephira" upon the Qabalistic Tree of Life, poised as the apparently endless gulf separating the ideal reality of the Supernal Triad from the manifested lower Sephiroth ruled by the Fourth. The number of Da'ath is eleven because it is the "one beyond the ten."

Much has been written about this dimension, often referred to as the Abyss, particularly the Abyss of Reason. "The Abyss of Hallucinations hath Law and Reason, but in Truth there is no bond between the toys of the Gods," wrote Frater Perdurabo in his blasphemous "Book of Lies." Another favorite comment of mine on the matter of the existence of the "False Sephira" comes from the rather famous Benjamin Rowe, a modern Enochian magician. I will paraphrase: He writes that the idea that there is actually an existent eleventh sephira between the crown of the tree and the center is one of the most damnable deceptions ever perpetrated upon humanity, as the very appearance of Da'ath itself only arises due to the reflection of Tiphareth (the central sphere) in the gulf around the Supernals.

Of course, Kenneth Grant, once the Outer Head of the Typhonian Ordo Templi Orientis, would probably beg to differ, as he seems to regard the Abyss as an actual essential gateway into the parallel universe of the Qlippoth, a realm of the broken remnants of primal reality. Of course, much of the reason the Abyss often becomes such an obsession for magicians is that many seek to cross it. This is the famed and dreaded "Ordeal of the Abyss." If one is successful in this task, one's entire personality is annhilated, and one becomes "no-one," and thus, transfers consciousness into Binah, the "lowest" of the Supernal spheres, and is called a dweller in the City of the Pyramids. If one fails, one ostensibly becomes lost in the Abyss, and destined to either wall oneself up in a solipsistic prison and eventually be devoured by the Demon of the Abyss, or just give in and be driven completely insane immediately. Obviously not an Ordeal for the timid or the unprepared.

The name of the Demon of the Abyss is Choronzon, which enumerates to 333 in Hebrew.

A final note, for the interested or curious: The Abyss is sometimes referred to as the Desert of Set.

Just remember when you look into the abyss, the abyss looks also into you.

posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 10:00 AM
This image shows Daath on the tree of life:

This image shows the tree of life including the veils and correspondences:

posted on Nov, 4 2009 @ 05:29 PM
This is an interesting thread. Would anyone be able to expand in their own words what the effect on the initiate is? At what stage of development are they at when confronted with Choronzon? Does this development necessarily need to have been conscious?

posted on Dec, 22 2009 @ 07:14 PM
Da'at is were all ten sephirot of the Tree of Life are united in one the mystical state. Behold this is the Flower of Life. Also take notice the 19th path is the Serpent below the Forbidden fruit, that in which was & is? Da'at. But the best part of all is that Da'at rest on path 13 the camels back! Truely the middle pillar is the straight path.

The hebrew letter Teth has a value of 9 & a meaning of snake & a power of 9
while the hebrew letter Gimel has a value of 3 & a meaning of Camel & a power of G, Gh

Once you figure out that Teth was the Serpent in the "Qliphoth" Just think of the Cabala upside down. You will start to see a real gnosis. And that gnosis is Da'at!

Both Hebrew & Arabic are the languages of the Flame as well. Brilliance they are a blazing.

posted on Dec, 22 2009 @ 07:30 PM
Chronos or Kronos is from Greece:
Another name for Nimrod, "the mighty hunter before the Lord" who built the tower of Babylon;

The Two Babylons

but it is not so well known who was Kronos himself. Traced back to his original, that divinity is proved to have been the first king of Babylon. Theophilus of Antioch shows that Kronos in the east was worshipped under the names of Bel and Bal; and from Eusebius we learn that the first of the Assyrian kings, whose name was Belus, was also by the Assyrians called Kronos. As the genuine copies of Eusebius do not admit of any Belus, as an actual king of Assyria, prior to Ninus, king of the Babylonians, and distinct from him, that shows that Ninus, the first king of Babylon, was Kronos. But, further, we find that Kronos was king of the Cyclops, who were his brethren, and who derived that name from him, * and that the Cyclops were known as "the inventors of tower-building."

The name Kronos itself goes not a little to confirm the argument. Kronos signifies "The Horned one." As a horn is a well known Oriental emblem for power or might, Kronos, "The Horned one," was, according to the mystic system, just a synonym for the Scriptural epithet applied to Nimrod--viz., Gheber, "The mighty one" (Gen 10:8), "He began to be mighty on the earth." The name Kronos, as the classical reader is well aware, is applied to Saturn as the "Father of the gods." We have already had another "father of the gods" brought under our notice, even Cush in his character of Bel the Confounder, or Hephaistos, "The Scatterer abroad"; and it is easy to understand how, when the deification of mortals began, and the "mighty" Son of Cush was deified, the father, especially considering the part which he seems to have had in concocting the whole idolatrous system, would have to be deified too, and of course, in his character as the Father of the "Mighty one," and of all the "immortals" that succeeded him. But, in point of fact, we shall find, in the course of our inquiry, that Nimrod was the actual Father of the gods, as being the first of deified mortals; and that, therefore, it is in exact accordance with historical fact that Kronos, the Horned, or Mighty one, is, in the classic Pantheon, known by that title.

The meaning of this name Kronos, "The Horned one," as applied to Nimrod, fully explains the origin of the remarkable symbol, so frequently occurring among the Nineveh sculptures, the gigantic HORNED man-bull, as representing the great divinities in Assyria. The same word that signified a bull, signified also a ruler or prince. *

* The name for a bull or ruler, is in Hebrew without points, Shur, which in Chaldee becomes Tur. From Tur, in the sense of a bull, comes the Latin Taurus; and from the same word, in the sense of a ruler, Turannus, which originally had no evil meaning. Thus, in these well known classical words, we have evidence of the operation of the very principle which caused the deified Assyrian kings to be represented under the form of the man-bull.

[edit on 22-12-2009 by Clearskies]

posted on Dec, 22 2009 @ 07:33 PM

Crowley evoked the spirit of "a foreman builder from Ur of the Chaldees,"

It's critical to note that Nimrod/Chronos was the "Tower" builder of old.

posted on Mar, 21 2010 @ 03:43 AM
Well Grant also links a variant on the name to “Chozzar” which is some kind of pig deity. It isn’t only Grant that believes that Daath is a doorway to universe B as the false voodoo gnosis of Michael Bertiaux’s groups also believe the same thing. If you draw an geometrically accurate version of Otz Chaim (the tree of life) and fold the paper properly you actually get malkuth fitting onto death as per the fall. This is the reason why Yesod is still called the foundation.

The desert aspects of the tree become apparent once one gets to the level that is around the level of tiphereth. And it appears to be a band across the width of the tree. The macrocosm is a sparser place but what you see is a lot more important.

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