Japan Could Be Offered 40 F-22s, page 2

reply to post by FredT

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AESA radar , arrow , lavi - all projects sold to the highest *chinese* bidder - latest `rumour` is the J-10 has an AESA set , and would be going to the PAK airforce with there shiny new airplanes.

Originally posted by FredT
reply to post by LeTan

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In terms of close in manuvers the SU may actually have the edge but only by a hair. Both have vectored thrust and the Su's is 3-D versus 2D for the Raptor.

Here is a good primer on the Airframe
www.ausairpower.net...

and the Flanker
www.ausairpower.net...

Now the F/A-18 E or the F-35 versus the Flanker, Id put my money on the Flanker

[edit on 7/4/09 by FredT]

ARGH NOT CARLO KOPP AGAIN!!!!! he is the biggest douche in the universe, he wants his company modify F-111's and get F-22's and additionally get paid royalties for coming up with the idea. Therefore, he is no different to Lockheed Martin PR, or Boeing PR (Only Lockheed and Boeing are taken seriously by the defense community). He is merely having a sook because Australian Defense does not take him seriously, so he defames other aircraft.



I'd put money on the F-35 / Super Hornet, that's unless you give the Flanker mystical powers like Carlo Kopp does. Why is it RAMJET R-77 versus AIM-120C? For example.

Yeah that was a lesson that cost blood and the marines with thier F-35B are going to rely on a pod

Just like the Harrier I presume.

[edit on 5/7/2009 by C0bzz]

If the United States were to sell the F-22 to Japan, there would be no need for their project ATD-X, which is their version of the F-22 and the source of a heated debate (said to be against Article 9 of the Japanese Constitution which pohibits advancements in arms that may be used against any one people).

There are striking similarities between the two, but the ATD-X fails to meet the stealth superiority of the F-22.

The ATD-X prototype is under development as of late. It's first flight is scheduled for 2011.

F-22: plus.maths.org...

ATD-X: big5.eastday.com:82...

reply to post by Bushido Kanji

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ATD-X (Shinsen IIRC) is actually more related to F-35 than to F-22, but it is optimized for the air defense role rather than for strike missions, reflecting Japan's purely defensive strategy.

In terms of role it is more similar to F-22, but more of an interceptor than a penetration fighter like F-22.

Thus stealth is not as much of a priority - it's not expected to fight inside an opponent's SAM envelope. It's optimized for speed for the interceptor mission.

Still if they are offered the option, I expect they will go for F-22.

With the financial hit they took on developing the F-2 I suspect they would prefer to leave the R & D costs to us.

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