It just keeps piling up.
There is no freakking way this would pass in Canada...and I agree with you, teachers aren't the most hard-working people in society, and have a tendency towards self-righteousness, IMO.

I wonder if since they get all this power, they'd then have to be held accountable on certain actions of the child? Makes sense to me, and if it were proposed, many teachers who wanted this to happen, magically wouldn't.

I actually thinks it could be a good thing.
I know my child goes to school and is affected by these Disruptive children in class.

My child has had to attend detention through others in the class as detentions affect the whole class. If one child is being disruptive the teachers make the whole class stay behind.
On a few occassions iv had to phone my child at school to find out were she is becuase she is late home and iv been worryed for her safty.

And when they do hold the class back 15 - 20 mins after school the children are not allowed to inform their parents.




[edit on 28/6/09 by Ezappa]

[edit on 28/6/09 by Ezappa]

OK, to destroyed and heyo,

Do you know the type of student that this aimed at? I can assure that it is not aimed at students that teachers simply dislike. Do you have any idea of the multiple levels of beaucracy that exist within a school and how many people would have to be invovled in this to get any kind of action taken at all?

Are you aware how damned difficult it is to get a parent into court over not sending their child to school?

The type of student that this is aiming at are the kind of students I teach.

The ones who assault other students in class.
The ones who set fire to classrooms.
The ones who assault teachers.
The ones who destory property.

I'm quite happy to put up with all of this, because it doesn't happen in my classroom becuase I can handle them - around the school though is a different story.

This will not affect those students who are constantly distrupting the learning of others with silly low level disruption.

I think it's a good idea - shame it's never gonna work properly - as is the case with most government education policies. Why don't they just let us teach?

And as for the comment about teachers not being the most hard working people???

You have no idea just how hard working 99% of teachers are. We flog ourselves half to death for our students. I find that comment disrespectful and offensive. Spend a month doing my job then tell me I'm lazy. I've had student teachers who are in tears after an hour because they can't cope with the students I teach day after day.

Oh, sorry, am I sounding a little self-righteous there?

Peace,

MGGG

i am always ready to jump and defend the rights of people, but this rule is like a last ditch effort to get kids to straighten up their acts

kids are getting way out of hand , and if the parent sends their kids to school they should help out and keep them peaceful

just youtube around and watch what kind of videos kids make these days


bring back some of that old fashion discipline

Not a bad thing IMO, then again i am actively involved in my kids schooling and they have beeb brought up respectful and they behave in and out of school (at the moment)

There are many parents out there who don't give a damn about their kids though, so if they have to be "encouraged", to take notice or how thier kids behave, then i don't see anything wrong with that.

Every case is different though. Not all disruptive kids are just naughty kids. Not all disruptive kids have bad parents who don't try.

To0 lock a parent up will just make the issue worse if you ask me.
CX.

I agree that this could be a good thing when used as a last resort. Personally I think it boils down to the parents not teaching respectful manners or morals, and not disciplining their kids when they do things wrong.

There seems to be a stigma against parents disciplining their kids with anything other than some stern words and time-out, but in reality, that doesn't always work. Either discipline properly and accordingly for the child's actions, or discipline the parents for not being qualified to be parents.

I don't think fining the parents will help either. TV parents most kids these days. That's were they get their ideas usually. Parents can't be blamed for everything that is wrong with a child so I believe this system will cause more harm than good. Maybe in a few cases all will go well but in others someone who shouldn't be blamed will be

The UK needs to have a shift in thought and stop finding reasons to support the will of disruptive and unruly pupils over the attempts of dedicated professionals to do their job. A job which is ultimately aimed at benefitting the lives of the pupils.

There are many things about British society and our attitude toward the youth that set us up for the problems we are now struggling to find a solution to.

Teachers in Britain, in my opinion, are now expected to perform duties way beyond those of just educators. Teachers must now play the role of educator, social worker and parent - and must hit impossible targets in each role.

I, for one, welcome any legislation that supports the teacher. In today's Britain, it's no mean feat. If it gives today's apathetic parents more reason to pull their weight and feel the full responsibility of raising another human being, all the better.

The schools have this power because parents keep volunteering their children to serve as persons/citizens in these prison-like credit facilities. For every shift the child serves, someone is profiting big.