reply to post by LDragonFire
I don't have time to dig out all the Bible quotes. Yes you are right that there are a lot of nice neat little graphs out there with not much of
anything solid to back them up with. God never gave us a time line that this is going to happen, and then this, and that, and then the end.
The seals will be broken in order, but how fast or slow will they be broken we don't know. The tribulation could have been happening for years. Or
WWII could have been a dry run for what is to come.
I'll give you something interesting to dwell upon. I forget exactly how this goes, since it has been awhile since I read this part. When Jesus killed
and talked about the fig tree he talked about it coming back and knowing the seasons. Many have associated the fig tree with Israel. Israel as a
nation would cease to exist and be scattered into other nations. Later on Israel would become a nation again. When that happened we know the season
for the return of Christ has come.
Israel became a nation again in 1948. There for many pastors that talk about the end times claim that the season for the end times has started in
1948, and that generation will not pass. Christ will come before that generation will die.
If this were true, then the oldest a person will be able to live is 120, which would place the last date at 2068. Get this, I believe the average age
a person lives to is round about 65 - 80. I know this may be stretching things, but the Mayan calendar ends at the year 2012. People who have been
born in 1948 will be 64 years old.
Now look at the world today. The Bible says that we are suppose to see an increase of basically all natural disasters. The question becomes were there
more natural disasters globally today than 60 or even 100 years ago? Are they increasing, and they increasing in intensity.
Has nation risen against nation? Are there wars and rumors of war? 1/3 of the Earth is suppose to be stricken with Famin. I know there is a lot of
famine in Africa and some other places. Does that make 1/3 of the earth? Is 1/3 of the earth in war? Is 1/3 of the earth covered in wide spread
disease? The Bible didn't say it had to be one particular disease, just that 1/3 of the earth is inflicted with disease.
What about the Antichrist? Is this a person? If so, is he or she already in power? If so, where is the most likely place they can have power over the
world and yet not be well known to the general public? The head of the UN perhaps? If a global government does come into existence, I suspect those at
the head of the UN would become the heads of the one world government.
What if the antichrist isn't a person? Could it then be a super computer that will take over everything when it is able to think for itself? Could it
be an economy, where if you are not a part of that economy you can not buy or sell? You have to use some type of card or chip, because it would be a
cashless society? What if the antichrist is more like the government in HG Wells book 1984. There is a leader that everyone can point to, but
technically there is no leader. The leader is technically the one who is running the show behind the scenes.
How will we know that the antichrist is here? There are only two parts in the Bible where I could be sure. I could not buy or sell without some type
of mark on my right hand or forehead. The antichrist is suppose to desolate the temple of God. I believe the one Solomon built in Jerusalem, but am
not quite sure. That temple has never been rebuilt. Unless a new temple is build over the remains of the old one.
I'll watch out for not being able to buy and sell without a mark of some type.
The economy is very bad right now, and could get worse. If the economy crashes, it could make way for mark. I believe the mark deals with the economic
side of things.
Have you noticed that there is a push going on for toleration of practically every type of religion including Islam? When people speak out against
Islam, someone steps in and says wait a minute you don't understand. You are suppose to be tolerant. Even though we see and hear about the atrocities
done to people in the name of Islam. Is there a religion you can think of were people are being persecuted just because they believe it? Islam
persecutes Christians, and so does China. Christians are not well received in Europe. Even in this thread they are not considered in a good light with
our book being considered archaic.
One last question, is good starting to be seen as evil and evil good in today's society? Was there anything that once was considered evil back in
history, but is now being tolerated today? Why? Was it Christian view points that made those things evil back then. Now we came out of the closet so
to speak, and have to tolerant politically correct ideas that changes how we see things and how we think.
For example, in history people would have been shocked if someone suggested killing a baby before it was born. It was considered evil and a part of
thy shall not kill. It was even illegal to do so not too long ago in the US, until one rule changed everything. Now it is commonly practiced, and
accepted by many. There are those who condemn the practice of abortion on the basis of principal, but there are those who condemn it as inherently
evil, but they are mostly looked down upon. I have heard once that there were more deaths due to abortion, since it was made legal, than there were
men killed in all the wars in the US history. How true that is I'm not sure, and don't have time to google it.
I have to go to work. Hopefully, I gave you some things to think upon.