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“I recommend to Obama -- they ’re criticizing him because they say he’s moving towards socialism -- come Obama, ally with us on the path to socialism, it’s the only road.” Chavez comments on President Obama and the US economy. He made the remarks today on Venezuelan state television. “Imagine a socialist revolution in the US. Nothing is impossible."
Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
I wont bash your opinion, but I will ask you just what has Obama done that wasnt happening already? It was a Republican President who began the bailout process. Obama just voted for it and inherited it.
And dont be fooled by Republicans now not voting for things. That is a political ploy. They know they can afford not to, and still have the bailout. That way the program their party started can be wholly blamed on the Dems if and when it fails. If I recall, it was the Republicans as well as the Dems who were harping on about how crucial this all was when McCain stopped his campaign to fly to Washington to "help" (grandstand) it get pushed through.
If those Republicans for one minute felt that their not voting would stop the bailout they would vote for it. They are positioning themselves for the next election. Thats all. They want their bailout money and to look like they are innocent in the whole thing too.
They heard the emails etc. that crashed the Washington servers, and now that that ball is rolling and will not be stopped, they are pretending that they had nothing to do with it. So they get more votes next election. When it was their party who was on the watch when it became necessary, and their Party who was stumping like mad for it before the election. You have to be willfully blind not to see what they are doing. Not that the Dems wouldnt be doing the same thing if they were in that position. They would. Politicians are by and large, a bunch of lying self serving whores. (And I mean that literally, they sell their selves for money)
America has never been a pure capitalist country. Never has. It has always been a mixed economy. (Part free market with social spending) Look it up. There never has been a purely capitalist country anywhere. The problem with our country is that most of our "social" spending is not spent on humans, but on Corporations. (And I include in spending subsidies, as well as much of our military spending which is done on behalf of business interests.) Which is not capitalism. Thats not Obama's fault. Thats the fault of politicians from both parties for decades back.
[edit on 7-3-2009 by Illusionsaregrander]
Originally posted by Iamonlyhuman
Well, for one, he's nationalized several banks already and he's about to institution a national healthcare program and he's already said that his goal is to be America's Robin Hood. Oh, that's three. Sorry
Morning Edition, March 6, 2009 · The debate over whether the U.S. government will end up nationalizing the banks is usually presented as an either/or proposition — either the government takes over the banks to keep them from becoming insolvent or it leaves the banks in private hands.
The Obama administration seems to be working on a subtler approach, somewhere between the two. As Planet Money correspondent Adam Davidson tells Steve Inskeep, the official word is clear: The Obama administration and Federal Reserve officials say that nationalizing the banks is the wrong choice and that they have no intention of doing it.
“This administration continues to strongly believe that a privately held banking system is the correct way to go, ensuring they are regulated sufficiently by this government,” Gibbs told reporters. “That’s been our belief for quite some time, and we continue to have it.”
U.S. regulators led by the Treasury Department announced today that the government stands ready to take bigger bank stakes in the form of shares that “would be converted only as needed over time.” To analysts including Paul Miller of Friedman, Billings, Ramsey Group Inc., nationalization of some of the nation’s largest lenders appears well under way. The government already holds $52 billion of preferred shares in Citigroup, five times the bank’s market value as of Feb. 20.
Originally posted by neo67
most republicans got fired for the so called spending.
the democrats who are still in control of congress still have their jobs WHO SPENT THAT MONEY and blame republicans
that is a fact and it is not even acknowldged by anyone.
Originally posted by troos1
reply to post by baseball101
I'm an American, Born in Cincinnati Ohio, freedom-fighter and gun-owner, and I'm with Chavez: we should go Socialist! (Democratic Socialism provides greater freedom then what we have now, a corporate-controlled, almost fascist government).
...and it seems Obama is moving us towards Democratic Socialism, so gobama!
Originally posted by baseball101
Wow ... seems like a lot of people really think the U.S. is heading towards socialism ... i'm not gonna disagree, he doesn't really have to make the offer obama seems to like the way he's doing it already, but that's just my opinion, everyone has their own so don't bash mine ... very interesting though that Chavez of all people say this ... i think it's kind of funny that we're being offered to be endorsed by a loony ...
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