the want of money is the root of all evil!!!

reply to post by Mozzy


Actually no. I can model it free of charge. What I lack however is the knowledge of physics and scientific application. I am ready to work soon as some other similar mids come together and figure out how to addresss and solve the problem as well as finance it, cause I do like to eat.

reply to post by 12.21.12


gold is useless unless used in some machine for human necessity

water and food is far more useful to humanity as is our Charity and support of each other

reply to post by Notroh est


Actually it is said that the reason Gold is so Valuable is because it has healing properties when it comes to things like the ozone layer and the earths overall stability.

You wouldn't dig out my heart and call it useless would you?

Cause thats what is happening to the earth.

reply to post by Mozzy


'all energy is free. there is no pricetag on coal, wind, seaweed, sunlight, or horsepower. '

good point, but instead of helping fellow man, governments and corperations seize control of these resorses for their own gain their lust for MONEY.

i must point out RIO TINTO is owned by corperations that can be traced back to ROTHSCHILD and another interesting fact is that ROTHSCHILD financial advisers give most the western governments advise on MONEY and how to use it

reply to post by Notroh est


Well You should take note that the Rothschilds are behind the Federal Reserve while the Rockefellers are bhind banking and they are at war with one another.

reply to post by 12.21.12


"Actually it is said that the reason Gold is so Valuable is because it has healing properties when it comes to things like the ozone layer and the earths overall stability. "

it is said.... well i cant say ive heard that one.

money just represents a symbolic effect. Real money just exists as pure information like consciousness, why claim a quality such as evil or good over something that exists as anything? You might as well say symbols are evil, or languages are evil or words are evil. Although they have robbed the people of individual consciousness and that in actuality they increase ignorance of reality, they are our only primitive way of communication, unitl we develop universal telepathy or banish them we are victim to their mysticism.

Well a look through history can verify that. In fact the Grand Canyon is considered to be the place of entry to the earths organs, the parts that should not be touched. The prophecy of the Hopi goes on to say that when it is penetrated it will create havoc all over the earth. Similarly, there are little references like "DZIT DIT GAII" in Dnever INternational Airport which point to the four corners. DZIT DIT GAII is anasazi for White Moutnain, although in Colorado that would be known as Mont Blanca, The northern mountain of four cardianal directions (IE NE, SW, SE, NE). The funny thing is that these all have a central point which is known as four corners and there are three mountains within these four sacred mountains. It was said that there would someday be abundance of life (plants blooming during the winter) Which I have personally witnessed this year that basically means that there is some sort of threat to the grand canyon and the Navajos and other people of that region should be made aware.

reply to post by bubbabuddha


thankyou for altering any reasonable approach to cognitive understanding with your metaphysical gibberish
no good or evil, is that your point? so with your reason everything is everything no need to judge anything, no justice or punishment no wrong or right all is as it should be no matter how absurd or outrageous, you can do no evil blah blah. sounds like mental masturbation, im sure the NWO think along similar lines
id rather listen to Plato for good reason
Justice is the corner stone of every society and justice must be based in TRUTH
Not personal interpretation of everything, but with your mind set truth im sure is just as unattainable as clear reason.

You guys do understand that the NWO is pretty much impossible right? It will never happen. It goes against the laws of physics.

reply to post by 12.21.12


I ve posted that about a dozen times
not to worried about that
glad someone else said so though

it has been tried over and over, never friggin works
everybody is imagining the bogeyman and forgetting to wonder ,what is my part in this

am I part of the problem or the solution?

Imagine if we could keep things moving along just as it always has but we simply take money or any sort of expectation out of the equation. We would all have work - as much or as little as we like - but greed would be pointless and fruitless. In time (O Optimistic Me!), it would simply cease to exist.

There would only be one law: Love. That's it. The answer to all questions, all arguments, all situations: Love.

Money is the root of all evil. Just look at what we do to ourselves and to others for want of it. We only need to choose to make things different. No need to wait, start your thoughts moving in that direction now. Manifest it. If you think it can't be done, think again. I've been sending out these thoughts now for several weeks and look! A thread was started.

It can move to the next step now. You've taken the second step already. Thanks.

reply to post by 12.21.12

Much of that is our gold an precious resources which has since been seized by our governments and been replaces with paper. (worthless money)

So if you managed to get all the gold back, what exactly would make it any different than "worthless money". You now have worthless gold instead of worthless money, you have replaced the paper with rocks.

Perhaps you could make a nice golden calf out of all your shiny gold no? because you certainly can't eat rocks.

Originally posted by 12.21.12
reply to post by Notroh est

 

Well You should take note that the Rothschilds are behind the Federal Reserve while the Rockefellers are bhind banking and they are at war with one another.

I have to disagree, this is why they are not at war with each other but are in each others pockets.

And this has what to do with survival? Afraid you picked the wrong forum to post this in in my opinion.

Originally posted by Notroh est

You can't force someone to be charitable...

I am forcing no one

lol, of course you aren't.
But if you want our government to work on charity, you are going to have to force people to be charitable, because many people will not go along with it.

Originally posted by Notroh est
your so called incentive has become unrestrained greed and the current system collapse with all the desperate investment property owners screaming for bailouts and NATIONLISATION is proof it has failed, the capitalists are selling their nations to socialism and the “elite” are licking theirs fingers with the possibility of the WORLD GOVERNMENT and one world currency about to be implemented

This isn't a book of fiction. You're talking about one failure in our system - throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Capitalism did not cause this mess, it's not that simple.
If you implement your system, you'll find that it in no way fixes the problem. This is because the problem is greed, not money. If you take away money, then other things will take it's place. The wealthy (not in money but in resources) will own farms and will trade food for workers in order to have a greater yield. There will still be greed and there will still be problems. Moreover, it would be a much more complicated system in our modern world.
What will you do to recieve electricity in your house? Give the "electrician" a loaf of bread?
Or will you develop a point system, in which those who are charitable receive a certain amount of points which they can spend on items? Oh wait, that's money.
The only way your system would even work is if it was socialism, so there would be some standard for people to go by.

Originally posted by Notroh est
if you want your failed greedy system you can keep it but it wont be the system it once was, im asking for a system of charity between people within communities
money turns us against eachother charity will bring us back together

Money doesn't turn us against each other... where do you get that?
Greed, jealousy, and hatred turn us against each other. These emotions are in play with or without money.

Originally posted by Notroh est
"If the world was how you wanted it to be then there would never be any progress. We would still be planting corn and trading it to our neighbors for wool..."

i think we are a bit beyond those days.

Yes we are. But if you take away the incentive for people to work harder, then we will not have edisons or fords, we will have farmer joes.
You want to take the drive and competition right out of our system.

reply to post by Notroh est


Read more in depth and you will find that it is the love of money not the mere want that is the root of all evil.

There is nothing wrong with wanting a small amount of money to feed a family or buy a house.

The love of money is the root of evil.



[edit on 8-2-2009 by XXXN3O]

Originally posted by XXXN3O
The love of money is the root of evil.

The love of money can be the love of life.
I love money because it affords me freedom.
What's wrong with that?

"Evil" is not when you afford yourself freedom to travel the world or buy the latest iPod, "evil" is when you do something which causes someone else harm.

reply to post by Notroh est


I want money, but I want to be free from evil. Please send me money so that I won't want more, and then I can remain free from evil.

Evil/Lucifer is seperation. God is the reality. The ultimate reality. All that is. Lucifer seperated himself from that and created his own reality of illusion to live in.

What do you think mankind is doing right now? They have seperated themselvs from reality to live in a delusion they have created themselvs.

But when you seperate yourself from reality, reality will destroy you. Because that is the illusion. You cant seperate yourself from reality. You are always apart of the reality. By ignoring that you will destroy yourself.

All is equal as one. There is no seperation.

It is also my belief that the duality of Good versus Evil is the Heart versus the Mind. The mind is what seperates reality from self.

Money is just part of the problem. The real problem is why we felt the need to create money in the first place. Human cosnciousness needs to change and it is very changeable.