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Israeli polls predict Netanyahu win in close race

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posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 12:51 PM
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Israeli polls predict Netanyahu win in close race


www.sfgate.com

The final opinion polls before Israel's election showed a narrowing race Friday but still projected a victory by hard-liner Benjamin Netanyahu's Likud Party.

A series of polls in Israeli newspapers gave Likud a slight lead over the Tzipi Livni's centrist Kadima centrist Party in the Tuesday
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posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 12:51 PM
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Lovely, and even more radical hawkish government in Israel. Might as well circle file the peace talks here and now.

From the same story


Netanyahu says no agreement is possible in the foreseeable future, and instead says he will try to jump-start the Palestinian economy while continuing Israel's military occupation indefinitely.


Here we go settlements will go foreward, and further incursion are likely. In addition, many hard line parties like Yisrael Beiteinu, are gaining more and more power.

Maybe another Lebanon invasion is comming?



www.sfgate.com
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 12:58 PM
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Looks like the Third reigh has been voted into Israel
not that supprised as chances are most people werent allowed to vote
and what the settlers stand for



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 01:05 PM
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Netanyahu says no agreement is possible in the foreseeable future, and instead says he will try to jump-start the Palestinian economy while continuing Israel's military occupation indefinitely.


Wow...

...did anyone else read "We're turning Gaza into a work camp" out of that?


Most of what this guy has said in the past gives me the creeps. He just sounds so much like so many other tyrants and dictators through history.



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 01:05 PM
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Actually second Lebanon war was done during another party rule. The same for invasion into Gaza.
I do not rule out another conflict in this region - this is of course grim reality. But it is not "party" based. More like situation based. If Hizbollah would do something stupid again - anything is possible.
By the way - there is no truce with Hamas as of now since both sides cannot agree. So another round in the South also can be possible.
As for Netanyahu and his hawkish policy - indeed Likud is right wing party. However he is the person who gave back to Palestinians control over Hebron and surroundings. So no reason to think that if US gently "asks" he will not go along the path of his predecessors.

Bodrul:
Majority are not allowed to vote??? Are you kidding? More of "Nazi" "Apartheid" "Genocide" stuff...... With same amount of credibility.
Any citizen of Israel can vote. Palestinians are not citizens of Israel. Or you would like Israel to annex the occupied territories?



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 01:09 PM
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they seem to have annxed a large of Percentage of Palestine for Israeli Squattters to build more homes on them, havent they?

also whats your views on this
banning any arab party (it was a nazi Tactic)

www.abovetopsecret.com...

[edit on 6-2-2009 by bodrul]



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 01:16 PM
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But they are not banned!! High court did not allow the decision made by elections committee and they are not banned - as i said on this very board. Nazi - right. All the comparisons do not stand the test of reality, do they...
List of parties that are running for 18th Knesset:
en.wikipedia.org...
As for annexing - there can not be any settlement on annexed territory - by definition. The only place that was annexed was Eastern Jerusalem. All the other places - with settlements on them or not - are not annexed.



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 01:23 PM
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so what are the places defined as that belong to palestinians that Israel Build homes on? since by


Settlements are considered illegal under international law, though Israel disputes this.

news.bbc.co.uk...




also the right winger saying he will build more settlements
on palestinian land

news.bbc.co.uk...


also

lots of simmilarities between nazi Germany and Isreal
www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 01:31 PM
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lots of simmilarities between nazi Germany and Isreal

Well - it is a known principle in propaganda warfare, if non-truth is repeated long enough - then it does not matter if it is non-truth.
This is what goes on with "Nazi, Apartheid, Genocide" labels and Israel.
I already told you that only way to compare between Israel and Nazi Germany is ..... to compare between them!!!! Really easy to reach to that conclusion.
Point a - Nazi Germany did that and now Israel does that.
You bravely evaded this type of discussion then, if i remember correctly.

And it really does not matter who is elected in Israel - if most leftist party will be in charge and withdrew from all occupied land (which will result in rockets on all the Israel), there still will be people comparing since it is not about reality. It is about smearing.



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 01:33 PM
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Nazi Deaths arent the only acts of violance
well you have my topic there
feel free to debunk the simmilarities and points made in that topic
it would be intresting to see your view on them



also you should look into the peace plan given by the Arabs
Full recognition and diplomatic ties (normal relations) If Israel goes back to its Boarders

[edit on 6-2-2009 by bodrul]



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 01:46 PM
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Hey, I've got a question...

I thought the Mods announced an 'end' to 'Hate Speech', yet here we are once again...

Israel being called 'Nazis', accused of 'Genocide'...

When does the 'Hate Speech' actually stop?



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 01:57 PM
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It is not about the borders!!! Borders are actually less problematic.
What is more problematic - is issue of Jerusalem and refugees. In Arab plan both are so vaguely outlined that no one can be sure what is the final suggestion.
And Israel cannot accept right of return of Palestinian refugees. It will effectively end Israel, and furthermore - blood bath after this desicion is a 100 percent reality.



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 02:01 PM
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When the IDF went into gaza Hezbollah did nothing - if the IDF go into another country - lebanon - again , then Hezbollah will fight them back - again.

i know sources are saying that israel learnt alot from 2006 etc etc - but really Hamas is nothing like Hezbollah , who are well organised and well funded and very well equipped ; RPG-29`s , the latest vehicle mounted ATGM and guided anti ship missiles are the tools of a modern army.


also notice that except for the odd rocket nothing has come from lebanon of recnt? and the odd rocket was stopped quickly as well - its another fight neither side really wants to get into but of course both will fight there best if some idiot wants to start it all again.



so who`s next? that`ll be Iran - with or without USA support , and it`ll get very very messy.



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 02:06 PM
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you should check what is defined as hate speach

reply to post by ZeroKnowledge
 


there is the problem right there
Israel Take in thousends of people from other countries and even goes to the extent of paying and trying to bribe people
and to put up with that slowly expand boarders


yet they are gobsmaked at allowing people back to their homes and land.
and the plan seems to be very clear that was given to them by the arabs



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 02:30 PM
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Attain a just solution to the problem of Palestinian refugees to be agreed upon in accordance with the UN General Assembly Resolution No 194.

news.bbc.co.uk...
So what is a just solution? Is it -



Resolves that the refugees wishing to return to their homes and live at peace with their neighbours should be permitted to do so at the earliest practicable date, and that compensation should be paid for the property of those choosing not to return and for loss of or damage to property which, under principles of international law or in equity, should be made good by the Governments or authorities responsible.

en.wikipedia.org...
Well, then Israel will never accept it for the reasons mentioned above. Aka no Israel the next day and brutal bloody war. Compensations is the only thing Israel can suggest. Otherwise it is not peace plan, but a plan to end Israel.



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 03:37 PM
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then why do Israeli take money from Germany and others which they claim is theirs, I have seen high cases on property being given to Jewish disendents even so that property was sold onto someone else.

whats with one rule for one person and another rule for the other?



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 05:21 PM
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reply to post by bodrul
 


As i allready said:


Compensations is the only thing Israel can suggest

So it is the same rule. You cannot expect that Israel will be able to return all the land - there are generations of people who live on it now, since 1948 war.



posted on Feb, 6 2009 @ 05:53 PM
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as i said most the time
supprising how it is for one group of people who are still being brought in from around the world and being located in Land which isnt theirs and for people who were forced from their homes.

whats your opinion on Israeli Settlements on palestinian land?



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