reply to post by 1xion325alpha
I disagree. I think we do need to be separate money and politics. The problem with the government is not poor regulation. The problem is that the
government started sticking their hands into every aspect of society into order to make money, and that only creates more problems down the road.
For example, want to get married? Well, first you have to pay the government for a license to get married. A license to get married, of all things??
Because of that, now we have this huge argument about gay marriage and straight marriage, because now marriage is not just something you do in a
church; it's something that the government has to sanction. So, by putting their hands in cookie jar in first place, so they could get fees for
marriage certificates, now we have to spend millions of dollars in tax money to legislate gay marriage...because we originally legislated straight
marriage. It only created more problems.
(I am not against gay marriage by the way. If gay people want to get married, fine by me! But laws need to be passed, which cost more money, because
the government got invovled in the first place. See how it works?? It's a vicious cycle.)
Another example: Want to go fishing for your dinner? First you have to buy a fishing license. We have to have a license to eat!!! (I'm surprised we
don't tax the bears in Alaska during salmon season!)
Let's say your'e vegetarian, like me, and you want to form a vegetable co-op with local familes. Nope illegal..the government gets involved, and
raids your co-op, because you're not registered as a food wholesaler. By regulating that, we then have to spend millions of more dollars in
regulation of small co-ops. And because of that, they don't have the resources to regulate large food processors, like the peanut factory in Georgia,
that spread salmonella around and killed 57 people.
Want to start a business? The government wants not only personal income from your salary from the business, but wants to tax the profits on your
business, too. The paperwork makes it almost impossible to hire your first employees.
The problem started with TOO MUCH government intrusion. They stuck their hand in the areas where they thought that they could make more money, and
then because of that, we end up spending MORE money to correct the problems created by the fact that the government got involved in the first
Even the housing crisis problem was caused because the government made a law that stated more poor people had to have access to homes. Well, poor
people cannot qualify for a normal loan...so the sub-prime loan was invented. I'm not excusing what the bankers did, but part of the reason they did
it because the government mandated that they had to provide loans to poor people. So, the sub-prime loans were created by corrupt bankers who took
advantage of the situation.
Why did the govt do that? Because not enough people could afford homes. Why? Because of a lot of reasons, but by trying to make a quick fix (laws)
instead of a complete system over-haul, we ended up in a housing crisis....and a depresion.
Another example, the government's unwillingness to regulate health care insurance companies makes it impossible for many Americans to survive
financially if they get really sick and or have pre-existing conditions. Yet they get over-involved in the welfare of illegal immigrants, they allow
millions of illegal immigrants to go on public welfare and they get free government benefits and healthcare. (I know, I live in Arizona. It makes me
so angry; illegal immigrants get free healthcare, where just down the street, a homeless vet with PTSD can't get basic healthcare.)
They could make regulations to make it easier for everyone to have access to health care, but they won't because of lobbying efforts of special
interest groups; big pharma, physician groups, etc.. For example, they restrict access to lay homeopaths and herbalists in many states, which is
wrong. Also, they restrict pharmacists from dispensing most medications over the counter, even in chronic conditions.
I'm a pharmacist, and in almost every country in the world, pharmacists can prescribe medications from behind the counter. Here, we can't even renew
a medication for a chronic illness, much less prescribe, because the physician groups don't want pharmacists to prescribe; they say it's unethical
to prescribe and dispense. (Although now, many physicians are doing just that; they are bypassing the pharmacies and dispensing their own medication,
because they can make a huge profit. So, it's not ok for pharmacists to prescribe or renew prescriptions, but it's ok for physicians to dispense
Anyway, because physicians lobbying groups give billions of groups in lobbying, people can't just walk into a pharmacy to get their usual blood
pressure medication from the pharmacist that they've been on for years. And because of health insurance lobbying groups, these people can't afford
the health insurance. And because they don't put caps on health care prices, the person can't afford to go to their doctor's office to get a
prescription, or go to the urgent care. So what happens? The patient "strokes out", and THEN the government pays for their ER visit and
hospitalization, or even their disability for the rest of their life.
So, we now have GREATER costs because of MORE regulation.
And that's part of the reason why we now need nationalized health; because the government regulated and restricted access to basic health care by
non-physicians, and the high costs of physician care are too high. You don't need to see a doctor every time you get sick, or for every prescription
renewal, but that is how the system is set up now.
And look at the financial policies of our country; they'll fund the IRS to go after someone who made a mistake on their own personal finances to the
full extend of the law, but they do nothing when someone like Madoff swindles billions of dollars in a fraud? They let him stay in his multi-million
dollar mansion on house arrest?
It's not under-regulation that is the problem, it's over-regulations and unfair regulations that are the problem; because these over-regulations
(and unfair regulations) then spawn more problems down the road, that then need to be regulated and funded.
Government regulation is a vicious cycle.
[edit on 6-2-2009 by nikiano]