This is not an Israel bashing thread, nor is it a pro-Hamas thread, so try and see it in that light and I would like people to please stay civil and
respectful when giving your opinion for the West's constant support for Israel despite numerous events where they were clearly in violation of human
rights laws. Israel also obviously realizes it acts with clear immunity as they don't even step down when the UN Security Council asks for a
My opinion is that there are numerous issues involved here:
1) Collective guilt for the extreme human rights violations during WWII
2) Collective buying into the concept that the Jews are God's chosen nation and therefore deserve haloed status; and
3) I think the force that Israel has amassed through the permission and assistance of the West has made it important for the safety of the planet not
to stir Israel to world aggression. With all their nuclear armament they have the potential to threaten mankind's very existence on this planet.
Just a few quotes:
"No American President can stand up to Israel."
These words came from feisty Admiral Thomas Moorer, Chief of Naval Operations (1967-1970) and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (1970-1974).
Moorer was, perhaps, the last independent-minded American military leader.
Admiral Moorer knew what he was talking about. On June 8, 1967, Israel attacked the American intelligence ship, USS Liberty, killing 34 American
sailors and wounding 173. The Israelis even strafed the life rafts, machine-gunning the American sailors leaving the stricken ship.
Apparently, the USS Liberty had picked up Israeli communications that revealed Israel's responsibility for the Six Day War. Even today, history books
and the majority of Americans blame the conflict on the Arabs."
"Whether the American-Israeli alliance stems from sentiment, political realism, or the machinations of the lobby, has it been a success-in its own
terms? When Mearsheimer and Walt ask if there are really strategic imperatives on the American side for ''unwavering support" of Israel, that is at
least worth discussing as a hypothesis. But it's scarcely more fascinating than the question of whether such support has been to the long-term
benefit of Israel.
Bolstered by American aid, successive Israeli governments tried to strengthen their settlements on the West Bank and in Gaza, the policy Friedman
calls insane. Ariel Sharon at last gave up the dream of a Greater Israel, including his promise to remain in Gaza ''for Zionist reasons." And now
Ehud Olmert, when he has formed his new government, will withdraw from most of the West Bank. Might not much blood and treasure have been saved if
Israel had been obliged to make those choices years ago?
In one of their most contentious passages, Mearsheimer and Walt suggest that ''Israel was becoming a strategic burden" by the time of the first
Gulf War. Then in 2003, history repeated itself, they say, as ''Israel was eager for the US to attack Iraq. ...The Israeli government and pro-Israel
groups in the United States have worked together to shape the administration's policy towards Iraq, Syria, and Iran, as well as its grand scheme for
reordering the Middle East.""
[edit on 27-1-2009 by Mynaeris]