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Here is the geographical location which is allegedly reported in ancient Sumerian texts as the location of the original Space Center of the early colonizers referred to in clay tablets as "Gods”
Another map shows the early cities between the Tiber and the Eurphates, leading to the Red Sea, and in geometric alignment with the original landing paths from the days preceding ancient Egypt.
Originally posted by coredrill
What that is quoted is from Books of Zecharia Sitchin, who is certainly a Pseudo-Archaeologist /Pseudo-Linguist …who alone could “translate” the Sumerian tablets while all other archaeologists/linguists could do nothing with them. He is a Charlatan to the boot. Tell me, how did he come to the conclusion that these alignment of the cities together with gaza are the exact flight paths of the So called Ancient Astronauts? Did he ever see a space craft excavated or even see the so called “Spaceport” or even see a space craft fly in these flight paths?? On what proof does he make these claims? Just hot air, that’s all.
As you said at the start of your Post, It is only wild Speculation. Thats all it will be.
You are quite correct. The pseudo-scientific and media data gathering world is filled with factually substantiated constructed lies, layers of them. So thick that we must sometimes take a hoax and fend through the fake news in order to see things in less of a polluted mindset. Beware, much of what is "proven" is to be at one time or another disproved. This is what ATS is here for, to enable us to operate such a process.
I clearly stated that this was a wild hypothesis, built upon a wild speculation. This is exactly what deductive reasoning offers as creative impetus. However, and this is where ATS comes into the picture, any speculative thinking must be confronted to factual analysis, not only on the basis of the plausibility of premises but also with respect to the plausibility of the hypothesis itself. You can come to a valid hypothesis using false premises. The invalidation of the premises does not invalidate the hypothesis if one can substantiate its plausibility and possibly attempt to establish a sounder basis for its construct.
If abstract thinking is too much for you, and you hate that wild jump into the unknown, stick to the official mass media or your own collection of personally approved information suppliers. Remember though, that the most professional disinformation organizations build reliable and trustworthy media sources in order to have maximum credibility when they slip in a lie. At least with fringe information sources, your retain a healthy dose of skepticism which allows you to judge ideas at face value and not on the basis of how proven or verified their parameters are.
You will also note that this thread was not posted in the Alternative Politics section or Current Events forums. It is in Skunk Works due to its unproven and controversial nature. This is the place we are allowed, or should I say even encouraged, to post unconventional wildly speculative thoughts.
Thanks for your kind words of encouragement. Few people look at the threads in this section, and each time I hear that they are bombing ever increasingly underground tunnels, it is hard to believe that there is nothing else underground. Talk about using a sledge hammer to swat a mosquito!
There is a lot, aside from Sitchin's meanderings, underneath the layers of archeological dirt of the Middle East. By the way, what brought me to wonder was not his work but a later book called "Gods of the Millennium".
Not all of archeology is as futile as we are led to believe, much is kept under wraps, allegedly using discretion as an excuse to stave off grave robbers or artifact hunters. Some of us sincerely doubt that there is no link between some of today's current events and our hidden ancient history, justifiably referred to as "occult" given that it has been purposefully hidden from our knowledge for centuries upon centuries.
Whether true or not, it is worth a jostle of our brain cells to envisage that military actions which cannot be justified from a geostrategic perspective and much less from a political standpoint could obey another rationality. What this obedience is, and what its hidden objectives are remain a mystery... encouraging wild speculation until something makes sense.
CIA nominee vows to break with Bush policies
AFP Dan De Luce February 5th, 2009
President Barack Obama's choice to head the CIA has made clear he would break with Bush administration policy against terror suspects, saying detainees would not be subjected to torture while in US custody or in allied countries.
Leon Panetta, nominated as director of the Central Intelligence Agency, told a senate hearing that he considered waterboarding -- used by the previous administration against at least three terror suspects -- to be "wrong" and that he opposed transfering detainees to countries where they may face torture or other abuse.
Panetta promised to uphold the law and to repair relations between Congress and the embattled spy agency, which has been castigated over flawed intelligence reports in the run-up to the Iraq war and controversial tactics in the "war on terror."
Asked at the Senate Intelligence Committee hearing whether the agency would continue the practice of so-called extraordinary renditions to foreign states, Panetta said: "No, we will not."
"Because under the executive order issued by the president, that kind of extraordinary rendition, where we send someone for the purpose of torture or actions by another country that violate our human values, that has been forbidden by the executive order," said Panetta, referring to a decision issued by Obama in his first days in office.
But Panetta said some kinds of renditions of prisoners were "appropriate," citing as an example the transfer to France of Carlos the Jackal to stand trial on terrorism charges.
And he said the United States had the right to temporarily hold and question "high value" terrorist suspects captured abroad.
Human rights groups have long accused President George W. Bush's administration of supporting torture by transfering detainees to repressive countries.
Asked whether he was saying the United States had sent prisoners abroad to be tortured, Panetta said he had not been officially briefed on what actually had happened over the past eight years.
But he added: "I suspect that has been the case."
Panetta also strongly condemned the use of waterboarding, which simulates drowning, to extract information from detainees.
"I have expressed the opinion that I believe waterboarding is torture and that it is wrong," he said.
"More importantly, the president has expressed the same."
The CIA and other officials have acknowledged using waterboarding against some terror suspects during Bush's tenure, drawing condemnation from rights groups and foreign governments.
The nominee also responded to criticism from former vice president Dick Cheney, who accused the Obama administration this week of "turning the other cheek" in the fight against terrorism by deciding to end harsh interrogations and closing the Guantanamo prison.
"The implication is that somehow this country is more vulnerable to attack because the president of this country wants to abide by the law and the Constitution," Panetta said.
Saying the CIA had undergone a period of dramatic change marked by "frayed relationships" with Congress, Panetta said he wanted to put that era "behind us."
Although his lack of hands-on experience in intelligence work had raised concerns among some senators, Panetta said his many years as a political insider would aid him in the job.
Panetta pledged to deliver credible, accurate intelligence, and said Washington needed better information on Hamas militants controlling the Gaza Strip and on smuggling through tunnels linking the Palestinian enclave with Egypt.
"I am afraid that what we really need to do is to develop much better intelligence about what is going on with Hamas, where the tunnel floor is located, what is taking place with regard to the tunnels," he said.
Panetta, expected to be confirmed by the Senate, did not face tough questioning over his lucrative consultant and speaking fees he reportedly earned from corporations, including some doing business with government national security agencies.
The son of Italian immigrants, Panetta was elected to the House of Representatives in 1976 from a district in central California, serving until 1993.
In July 1994, Panetta was appointed ex-president Bill Clinton's chief of staff, serving for almost three years.
[I]CAIRO – Archaeologists exploring an old military road in the Sinai have unearthed four new temples amidst the 3,000-year-old remains of an ancient fortified city that could have been used to impress foreign delegations visiting Egypt, antiquities authorities announced Tuesday.
Among the discoveries was the largest mud brick temple found in the Sinai with an area of 70 by 80 meters (77 by 87 yards) and fortified with mud walls 3 meters (10 feet) thick, said Zahi Hawass, chief of Egypt's Supreme Council of Antiquities.
The find was made in Qantara, 2 1/2 miles (4 kilometers) east of the Suez Canal. These temples mark the latest discovery by archaeologists digging up the remains of the city on the military road known as "Way of Horus." Horus is a falcon-headed god, who represented the greatest cosmic powers for ancient Egyptians.
The path once connected Egypt to Palestine and is close to present-day Rafah, which borders the Palestinian territory of Gaza.
Archaeologist Mohammed Abdel-Maqsoud, chief of the excavation team, said the large brick temple could potentially rewrite the historical and military significance of the Sinai for the ancient Egyptians.
The temple contains four hallways, three stone purification bowls and colorful inscriptions commemorating Ramses I and II. The grandeur and sheer size of the temple could have been used to impress armies and visiting foreign delegations as they arrived in Egypt, authorities said.
The dig has been part of a joint project with the Culture Ministry that started in 1986 to find fortresses along the military road. Hawass said early studies suggested the fortified city had been Egypt's military headquarters from the New Kingdom (1569-1081 B.C.) until the Ptolemaic era, a period lasting about 1500 years.
In a previous find, archaeologists there reported finding the first ever New Kingdom temple to be found in northern Sinai. Studies indicated the temple was built on top of an 18th Dynasty fort (1569-1315 B.C.).
Last year, a collection of reliefs belonging to King Ramses II and King Seti I (1314-1304 B.C.) were also unearthed along with rows of warehouses used by the ancient Egyptian army during the New Kingdom era to store wheat and weapons.
Abdel-Maqsoud said the fortified city corresponded to the inscriptions of the Way of Horus found on the walls of the Karnak Temple in Luxor which illustrated the features of 11 military fortresses that protected Egypt's eastern borders. Only five of them have been discovered to date.[/I]
Originally posted by UFOabducteebe
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Looks like TPTB have foiled you this time my friend.
In all fairness you beat me to the mark on this one. I found there is a 64 degree relationship between Giza and Gaza, and i wondered if that could account for the similarity of their names.
The ideal person to ask would be a biblical historical scholar who would be able to reference literature as to the meanings and origins of these names.
That will probably be just as telling as the removed article from Yahoo
What was it about, did anyone got it cached? hoping..
From the journal of a high-level 'carrier pigeon' messenger for the Illuminati cult:
"The Well of Souls (Arabic:Bir el- Arweh) is the name of a natural cave located immediately beneath the Sakhrah (the Foundation Stone) in the Dome of the Rock on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem. In addition to a small well shaped hole in the stone that looks into the cave, there is also an entrance on the southern side, via a set of steps passing through a gap between the stone and the surrounding bedrock. The cave takes the form of a moderately sized room (similar in floor space to the stone), the ceiling curving to the ground gently, and the floor having been flattened and carpeted. The southern end of the cave, through which the steps enter it, has man-made walls to provide structural support to the cave roof above the steps. Rabbi David ben Solomon ibn Abi Zimra attested to the existence of a cave, found under the Dome of the Rock, known as the Well of Souls. Since Islamic tradition holds that Muhammad ascended heavenwards from the stone, a related tradition has grown up that states that the Last judgment will happen at the Sakhrah, and that the souls of the dead gather in the well of souls to wait for that event, and to pray."
This is it - this webpage on Wikipedia THE WELL OF SOULS explained EVERYTHING for me - I finally got what had happened below Temple Mount.
Firstly - look at the aerial photograph of it on Wikipedia - it looks like the reverse image of the Illuminati 'rabbit' drawing that they showed us early on - complete with the 'eye'.
Secondly the 'well of souls' is supposed to be a 'moderately sized' room - that was PRECISELY what I had stood in - in pitch dark blackness but knew it to be a cave in the rock - with Scarlett and Rimington BEFORE falling down the relatively small hole in the ground - missing the rungladder but riccochetting off its back wall into the rung ladder and getting stuck between the wall and ladder as a consequence...my feet and hands found the rungs - very lucky indeed - as Rimington was to laugh about - they had had a nasty accident with one guy - who managed to impale himself on the spikes below.
Rimington had laughed at me in this 'well of souls' - I could hear people above and threatened to scream for help. She mentioned the people above and you could hear them faintly and how anyone screaming from that room would disturb them all greatly. I can see why now - the Muslims believe that the souls of the dead will congregate in this room - on the day of the Last Judgement. Anybody heard screaming from this 'well of souls' would be supposed to be a 'soul of the dead'. I guess that it what the guy had sounded like - the one who had impaled himself.
The article about the 'well of souls' states that this room is now carpetted...I would guess that a manhole cover has also been put down this tunnel underground from that cave-like room.
"According to pre-Islamic folklore, the well of souls was a place where the voices of the dead could be heard along with the sounds of the Rivers of Paradise, as, according to the folklore, the cave is located on top of the Abyss of Chaos; the cave is now known to have no exit apart from those leading to the surface of the Sakhrah, and the sounds have been argued to be a resonance effect similar to hearing the sea from seashells. The well of souls is sometimes conflated with the guf, a location in Jewish mythology, where the souls of the not-yet-born are stored, though the guf is usually considered to be a more heavenly location than an earth-bound one. The Well of Souls is sometimes considered the hiding place of the Ark of the Covenant in legends stating that the Ark was hidden beneath the Temple Mount, but removed when Solomon's temple was destroyed by the neo-Babylonians. In this context it appeared in Raiders of the Lost Ark, although relocated to Tanis, Egypt."
One can see from the above information that nobody visiting the Dome of the Rock and hearing faint wailing from below...would want to find out
who was making that sound...it would be framed as a 'religious experience' - that one had heard the 'souls of the dead'.
In addition, one can see that 'according to the folklore, the cave is located on top of the Abyss of Chaos', apparently nobody on the Internet knows about this 'Abyss of Chaos' underneath the 'well of souls' apart from this article...couldn't find any other mention of it.
I know exactly what this 'Abyss of Chaos' beneath the Well of Souls means: it means Herod's Temple - used by the Templars for their evil rites.
Let me go over the events again...down the steps under the Dome of the Rock to that underground chamber called THE WELL OF SOULS - no light put in it - although I now have the distinct impression that I was shown this small room AND the red carpet on the floor AND a stand-up lamp in the corner at some point although have NO knowledge of this room on this side of the mirror...however, I was then taken there again and in complete darkness... - then down the rung ladder and a crawl through the rock - via a small hole made by a natural stream which had long since dried up - the TINTIN book about BLACK ISLAND (used on Illuminati programming as a mind control text by British Intelligence to 'cover' memories of abuse) also has a similiar tunnel which reminded me again of the whole experience and so prompted me to look up the Dome of the Rock again...Anyway the crawl through the rock would take one AWAY from the Dome of the Rock...to underneath ANOTHER place on Temple Mount.
I can guess where THAT would be: the memory of walking around on Temple Mount with Rimington and Scarlett...her asking where I thought the 'temple' was and my pointing to that 'chessboard' with the 'rock sculpture pieces' upon it - in front of the Arabic Museum.
Rimington was messing around with my mind - she said 'no' and that 'everyone said that' ...she then pointed to the other side of the Dome of the Rock and said that the Jews believed that their Temple had once stood over there and were planning to build their new one in that location.
This puzzled me no end...I had assumed that she was referring to that Masonic Temple underground to which we had all been taken for that terrible 'induction' into the OTO cult - underneath Temple Mount and like all of the others, who had been asked the same question - had immediately psychicly guessed that this was in fact, beneath that demonic 'rock piece' chessboard between the Islamic Museum and Al Aqsa Mosque - on the other side of the Dome of the Rock. It makes sense - the Templars and Imams were known to have a very 'cosy' relationship - when they all lived together in the Dome of the Rock.
This was what Rimington and Scarlett were to call 'HEROD'S TEMPLE'.
I wonder now...perhaps it was more accessible in that epoch. One can see that many of the early peoples, carved their houses into the rock...or used natural caves (and put windows and doors into them) which are all over the surrounding hills of Jerusalem...so they most probably did the same with Herod's Temple...like the Assyrians did with their Temples... built them into the rock face. However, over the centuries...this 'cave cities' became buried. The City of David is a case in point - just outside the walls of the Old City.
Herod is known to have been a 'conquering king' and not necessarily Jewish at all - most historians figure a Babylonian heritage and his Temple would have been in keeping with whatever gods he worshipped - Sharon told me that in Sephardic history - Herod was recorded to have rounded up all of the Jewish Rabbis and murdered them all - apart from one that he blinded and kept his prisoner - as a sort of 'seer' "...the cave is now known to have no exit apart from those leading to the surface of the Sakhrah"... Why 'now known'?
Peculiar wording...suggesting that it was once known 'otherwise'...and it was once known that there was another exit to the 'well of souls' because I took it down that rung ladder and via the small 'naturally carved' tunnel...further underground to Herod's Temple.
The ex-Microsoft guy who told me about the Palestinian excavations which were proceeding in that very area to determine why Al Aqsa Mosque AND the Dome of the Rock were upon such shaky ground...there were splits beginning to occur in the beams and general supports for both buildings...and something underground was causing them. One could guess where that might stem from...and would also assume that this excavation had found that secret Herod's Temple...so what did they do about it? I searched the Internet for any references to this excavation after returning from Jerusalem but found none...my guess is that they would have filled it in fast...the whole underground chamber beneath the well of souls. I do not suppose that the Muslim world would be ready to hear that there was a demonic Bablylonian Temple almost underneath Al Aqsa Mosque. It would take the rug from underneath their feet, in many ways.
One also has to say that certain Imams would have already been aware of it - along with the descendents of the Templars.
Perhaps then it was simply by necessity, in order to keep up the 'sham' of the public religion above ground - in the Dome of the Rock and Al Aqsa Mosque that the Illuminati had to do something about this underground cavern - making it impossible for them to use it anymore for 'inductions' into the cult. If one were a cynic about the whole thing...maybe that was the way that it all went. If both of those edifices disappeared...all hell would break loose and the Illuminati wouldn't be able to necessarily use Islam as the chosen NWO religion.
Anyway, as I was visualising the whole secret route underground, in my mind...another image hit me...a metaphorical one:
The Illuminati love to programme with bodily imagery...using the body as a site to store programming.
I suddenly 'saw' the 'well of souls' as the STOMACH. Imagine the stomach as a small roundish cave with the duct down into the intestines...that is
how it looked and felt like...to go down there...then to follow the intestinal tunnel into a huge room...and that is when I thought SOLAR PLEXUS...or rather that large lower colon...need to look this up in a medical text book...the one that looks like an underground lake.
I then realised that this is figuratively, how this horrific 'trip' would have been programmed into us...in brief, our 'souls' were then trapped within our
solar plexuses...this all ties in with my solarised menstrual cycle...my 'energy' had become trapped in and around the solar plexus...and only the Yogis appear to recognise this phenomenon in women who have solarised menstrual cycles...12 periods a year rather than the normal 13...the 13 that follow the cycle of the Moon...but I had been programmed to follow the 12 monthly cycle of the Sun...the RA Freemasonry cult. A 'sun child' rather than a 'moon child'. This is a Roman/Babylonian cult although the RA Freemasons see the Egyptians as having begun it all - with the Pharoah Akhenaton. Herod appears to have come from the Babylonian region (according to the Sephardim scribes) and if this was really his Temple - then it wasn't Egyptian and it didn't look Egyptian either. It looked vaguely Arabic and Masonic but I have no idea, how modern the interior design was - in 1980 - the usual strange symbols and marbled floor of the anteroom with a big sun on it, in large yellow triangles with black and grey surrounds. It could have been Victorian, for all I know. In fact, it most probably was. It was far too pristine to be ancient - the immaculately carved twisted, stone pillars at the entrance to the main Temple etc...or carefully restored - either way...but I am thinking more 'USA CAFE' type interior design in Budapest...with the same twisted pillars and gold leaf around...sort of fin-de-siecle baroque.
In addition, when one thinks of planets or 'stars'...the Earth is supposed to be molten at the centre...it is a burnt-out star in a way...this corresponds to 'centre of the earth' programming. The centre is the 'Sun' of your being. The molten lava and fire and gases.
Anyway, there was a shaft to get out of the main hall of this Temple that lead out from the back of the 'altar' and on the right of it...rather like the shafts that lead out of the pyramids. We then came out onto high up rocky ground...the type around the whole of Temple Mount. Not sure which location but assume near to Zion Gate and then walked down to a waiting coach below that...and there are many down by the main road on that side of Temple Mount.
What actually happened at the Herodian Temple:
The figures cloaked in black on either side of the Priest at the altar - the Masonic codes and signals - a 'test' - the reading of the symbols on the shield - the 'levitating' golden cup...and I am now beginning to see that this whole thing was a set-up...rather like a David Blane (?) show (and most probably directed by one of those 'Hollywood' CIA operatives in London, from the 1960s e.g. John Waters - those who had incidentally, fooled the Rockefellers into believing in a 'lizard god' in the first place - all smoke and mirrors - special effects - the whole OZ program)...
Then the massive force that materialised above our heads and the Priest and then Rimington trying to get it under control and failing. The materialised 'force' wanted to murder ALL of them upon the spot and it was all I could do to reason with it - telepathically. Something in retrospect, I would never attempt to do again. It would have been better if they had all died - there and then.
When I used those commands...they were telepathic mind control commands to stop the aorta and blood vessels to Rimington's heart...and to close the Priest's throat...this was done via the 'force' that appeared...after they had made me sit on that 'throne' (and you know the rest - the spike up your anus - electric shock and 'esoteric' experience) and I am thinking the combined telepathic force of quite a few people here...but someone KNEW the codes of those bastards...and had wanted them all dead...and gave me those images/commands telepathically which I then imposed into the minds of those two...and it worked. One can see just how dire the mind control programming of both Rimington and Scarlett had been...to be able to implant such a 'thought' as in 'mind control command' into their minds and then to make their bodies actually 'do' it but those familiar with mind control programming know that this is easily possible by the spoken word but by telepathy?
Anyway, after the Priest and Rimington had collapsed upon the floor, everyone was made to disrobe and then this 'wind' or 'force' followed us out of the underground Temple - it rushed past us...and exited via the rock doorway in the side of the Mount...rather like what had happened at the Templar Castle...when President Putin smashed the Templars' ORB...we had to let it out of the Castle...and did so...the strange white force that lit up the sky over the burning Castle...that the British Army was to register as a possible chemical explosion that had occurred within it and wanted to know what exactly had been kept in that Castle...and I kept quiet about it at the time - figuring that they would never believe me - pearls before swine.
In addition, what Mark (a 'dissident' Rockefeller) had told me about the 'rock' in the Dome of the Rock sucking up the soul energy from those of us programmed there...CANNOT now be true and on several accounts...firstly that we were not below the Dome of the Rock anymore and so whatever rock was above us...wasn't the rock in the Dome of the Rock...in fact, what was directly above us...was an evil sculpture of ourselves as 'rock pieces' on a chessboard...an evil Illuminati joke no doubt...we had all been turned into 'rock people'... and guess what I am thinking now... the ROCKEFELLERS. Secondly, that at the Templar Castle near Mons, France 2001...this soul energy was kept prisoner in an ORB - which had some anti-gravity mechanisim but no idea what to make of that...
All I can guess is that someone, somewhere at that point (the guy working the mechanism behind the curtain? The one who made the golden cup elevate by wires and so obviously...) had found a similar ORB and smashed it, to release such powerful energy...and to then watch the fireworks that occurred...as the Priest tried to take 'it' on in a psychic match and lost...
Or maybe it was an accident...accidents do happen now and again...at any rate...I do not think that this was to do with the properties of the 'rock' above us at all...although one could say that metaphorically, it was the Rockefeller family, sucking up our energies... All I can say is that I had a mind-link to this force and subsequently experienced what happened, through myself at the time...
General notes on British Intelligence mind control programming in the tunnels under Jerusalem:
If however, one came from the West...as in under the MI Hotel...or the south-west...as in the 'crocodile tunnel' from Bathsheba's pool...then one might come a cropper with the 'minotaur'...or rather horrible memories of this 'British Crown jewels' programming en route...I have no idea where the 'gorgon' was supposed to be situated in these underground tunnels...or maybe that was the whole point of 'riding the snake' down Warren's mineshift in the City of David...
I suppose that the graduates would have had to enact out 'failing' to save the chained princess on the rock at some point because Daldry was of the opinion in Prague - that Perseus doesn't manage to save her from being eaten by the sea monster...and one can assume that they also 'failed' to cut the head off the Medusa i.e. Rimington...all part of programming.
Other notes on the programming script used in conjunction with this terrible experience under Temple Mount:
TINTIN: THE BLACK ISLAND - This was the book which must have been used upon all of us on programming in 1980 - in relation to that tiny rock tunnel that leads Tin-Tin into the 'Black Island' Castle - it is virtually identical and Tin-Tin also has to crawl through it - he then meets the ferocious black gorilla (or Tomlinson pretending to be a Minotaur - either way - these stories are all intertwined and mixed up - purposefully)...and I suppose we were always supposed to view our memories of under Temple Mount in a 'Tin-Tin' story sort of way...that was the visualisation and story which was supposed to cover up our memories of the OTO Temple horror underground.
I have been in contact with Israeli Intelligence for some time now...and figure that I have them to thank for so many of these 'clues' - as well as 'scanning my memory banks' to help me on the way to breaking those walls down...retrieving every memory that I could. They must have either known or found out about what the Rockefeller family was up to, under Temple Mount because this wasn't Israeli territory...it was Palestinian territory...Moshe Dayan had given the Palestinian Authority control of Temple Mount...and so the Illuminati were in collaboration with the Palestinian authorities who controlled Temple Mount...in order to conduct these OTO ceremonies underground.
One can see from the 'rock people' chessboard, strategically placed over the Herodian Temple and between Al Aqsa Mosque and the Arabic Museum - that this programming object would have most probably been bought by Rockefeller money - who had funded the whole thing, along with the British Royal Family. It would be interesting to know the date that this 'sculpture' was acquired or donated to the Palestinian authorities in question, on Temple Mount.
Originally posted by cindymars
S&F Because I love wild speculation.