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Topic started on 1-12-2008 @ 02:42 AM by Wolf321

Hillary to head State: Is it constitutional?


www.worldnetdaily.com
Barack Obama, it has been reported, intends to announce Sen. Hillary Clinton as his choice for secretary of state, an appointment America's Founding Fathers forbade in the U.S. Constitution.

The constitutional quandary arises from a clause that forbids members of the Senate from being appointed to civil office, such as the secretary of state, if the "emoluments," or salary and benefits, of the office were increased during the senator's term.

The second clause of Article 1, Section 6, of the Constitution reads, "No Senator or Representative shall, during the Time for which he was elected, be appointed to any civil Office under the Authority of the United States which shall have been created, or the Emoluments whereof shall have been increased during such time; and no Person holding any Office under the United States, shall be a Member of either House during his Continuance in Office."

During Hillary Clinton's current term in the Senate, the salary for Cabinet officers was increased from $186,600 to $191,300. Since the salary is scheduled to again be raised in January 2009, not only Hillary Clinton, but all sitting Senate members could be considered constitutionally ineligible to serve in Obama's Cabinet.
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reply posted on 1-12-2008 @ 03:01 AM by Ian McLean
They will apply the 'Saxby Fix':

en.wikipedia.org...

The Saxbe fix or simply a "rollback" is a solution to a restriction by the Ineligibility Clause contained in Article One of the United States Constitution on sitting members of the United States Congress being appointed to jobs created for them or for which the salary was increased while they were in office.


The most recent example, I believe, of this being applied was so that Lloyd Bentsen could become Treasury Secretary in the Clinton administration, moving from the Senate.


reply posted on 1-12-2008 @ 04:03 AM by zephyrs
Originally posted by Wolf321


Well, it seems in conjunction with the ongoing debate on President-elect Barack Hussein Obama citizenship, the constitutionality of an appointment of Sen. Hillary Clinton to Secretary of State has come up. This will clearly inflame liberals.

Why are there so many potential constitutional conflicts with this coming administration? Have such things happened before in American history?

www.worldnetdaily.com
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Thanks for the post. That's very interesting. I'm going to have to look into it a bit more. But a quick, maybe off topic, question. Why do you use Barack Hussein Obama but only Hillary Clinton and leave out Rodham?

Are you one of those pieces of # that like to point out Obama's "evil middle name"?

Originally posted by SonicInfinity
Hmm, why do you say "Barack Hussein Obama" and not "Hillary Rodham Clinton"? I hope you're not emphasizing his middle name or anything like that.

It makes you wonder if they're all being unconstitutional on purpose. You can never tell what these people are thinking. Even if Hillary being Secretary of State is unconstitutional, if Obama can get past the system, I don't see how Hillary will be stopped.


Oh man, I'm sorry. I didn't see your post. But it's good to know that I'm not the only one that took notice. A star and an apology for you!

[edit on 1-12-2008 by zephyrs]


reply posted on 1-12-2008 @ 05:52 PM by Wolf321
reply to post by yellowcard



You are partially right. It is saying you can't hold both offices, but it also says you cant take a position in which the pay was increased during their term as a member of congress.

Office under the Authority of the United States which shall have been created, or the Emoluments whereof shall have been increased during such time;


As Ian McLean already pointed out, this was remedied by the 'Saxby Fix' which I am more concerned about.
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