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What both charismatics and non-charismatics can agree upon is that the gifts mentioned in this verse will be "done away with" (in the case of prophecy and knowledge) and will "cease" (in the case of tongues). They would also agree that the reason these gifts will not continue forever is that they are inadequate - imperfect in relation to the "perfect" that is coming. Finally, they would agree that the gifts were operative in Paul's time and that the time of their cessation was a future event for him. The difference in interpretation lies in whether the gifts mentioned have ceased prior to our time, or whether they are still operative for us, as they were for Paul, and their cessation lies yet in the future.
A careful reading of the text demonstrates that Paul may be drawing a distinction between tongues on the one hand and prophecy and knowledge on the other. The latter two gifts will be "done away" with (katargeo). Tongues are said to "cease" (pauo). The "perfect" will actively "do away" with the "partial." Katargeo is in the passive voice, indicating that the coming of the "perfect" is the cause of the "partial" passing away. Tongues, however, will cease of themselves. Pauo is in the Greek middle voice, which is defined as "an action taken by the subject upon him, her, or itself" (Friberg). Thus, tongues will "cease" of themselves - not as a direct result of "the perfect" coming. If this is the case, Paul is not speaking definitively about when tongues will cease - only that when "the perfect" comes, tongues will no longer be operative in the church. "The perfect" will do away with prophecy and knowledge; but tongues will have ceased at some point prior to that event.source
they helped to establish the early congregation. by the time the bible was completed, they were no longer needed.
Originally posted by miriam0566
the reason that people think ¨gifts¨ today are from the devil is because of what it says in chapter 13
[8] Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
[9] For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.
[10] But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.
[11] When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
[12] For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
[13] And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.
it is also interesting to note that jesus said his followers would be identified by their love, not their powerful works. (john13:35)
Originally posted by bellla198
reply to post by heyo
im a christian and i dont think th@t the gifts people have are from the devil. i think maybe god gave them these gifts for a reason
Originally posted by heyo
Actually this verse in my opinion claims that without love these things shall cease. You must have love to have these things...maybe this was not a prerequisite before, and it became on then. What he's saying here is that you may have these gifts but without love they are nothing.
false merciless being done.
Originally posted by PreTribGuy
reply to post by slymattb
false merciless being done.
I have been baffled by your use of this word for a few days. I think I finally understand what you mean to write? Are you talking about MIRACLES?
By bad I was using spell check and I didn't pay attention to that part.