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posted on Nov, 3 2008 @ 01:38 PM
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I believe (and hope) this thread will be in the spirit of the new guidelines.

Tomorrow is election day in the good ol' USA. As such, I have a simple question for those who support Barack Obama for President. I believe the answers may be extremely interesting. I am not looking for any comments on McCain in this thread, as I am starting an exact same thread under his name. What I am looking for, from those who support Obama (and not just those who oppose McCain) is this:

Should Obama be elected, what do you see as the results of his Presidency? Where do you expect him to lead us in 4 years from now? What are your predictions, your hopes, that make you a supporter?

Please no disparagements against McCain, and no thoughts on how Obama is 'better'. Just why you think he would be the best man to lead us.

TheRedneck




posted on Nov, 3 2008 @ 01:49 PM
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I see an Obama presidency following Bill Clinton's tack for the most part and being a domestic president. If he can get us out of Iraq honorably... and it can be done... it will free up a lot of time and money that could better be used elsewhere. Still the gravity of international affairs will continue to pull on him just as it did Clinton. Biden is right, he will be tested, but so would John McCain, and much of how the rest of the world will judge us will be how he responds... will it be a knee jerk response like bush minor's or a measured and well thought out one.

He is going to have one hell-of-a international honeymoon period but here at home, not so much, even with a democratic congress.... why? because congress will be trying to reassert themselves after 8 years of subservence and this will be true no matter who is in the white house.

More than anything though an Obama presidency will change everything about race in this country, just as surely as Hillary (and Palin's run) has changed everything about gender politics in this nation.

By the mid point of this century I full expect to see a native American president and possibly an asian (Arab descent or not) in the running as well.... and this is good.

Even if Obama accomplishes only a quarter of what he is promising he will be a successful.

More importantly no matter who wins tomorrow... the 20 year Bush/Clinton era is over and that bodes well for the country.

[edit on 3-11-2008 by grover]



posted on Nov, 3 2008 @ 02:04 PM
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Considering the national debt and the current economic crisis, I don't expect to see a whole lot of change in four years. In an interview, Wolf Blitzer asked Obama to prioritize his issues from a list that included taxes, health care, education, energy policy and immigration...



"[The] top priority may not be any of those five. It may be continuing to stabilize the financial system. We don't know yet what's going to happen in January," he said. "None of this can be accomplished if we continue to see a potential meltdown in the banking system and financial system. So that's priority No. 1: making sure the plumbing works."

Priority No. 2: Energy Independence:

"We have to seize this moment, because it's not just an energy independence issue; it's also a national security issue, and it's a jobs issue. We can create 5 million new green energy jobs."

Priority No. 3: Health care reform.

Priority No. 4: "Making sure we have tax cuts for the middle class as part of a broader tax reform effort."


cnn

I expect to see a lot of difference in the economy. I expect to see people being able to buy houses and pay their mortgage. I expect to see a lot of jobs created as part of a movement toward energy independence. Once the first two priorities are working better (the economy is stable and we're working toward alternative energy), I expect the tax cuts plan to kick in. I do think there will be SOME tax cuts right away, but I don't expect his full plan to take effect until the economy is more stable.

I don't think a lot will happen in Health Care Reform or Immigration in the first 4 years. He might be able to touch on Health Care, but I'd be a bit surprised.

Otherwise, I have a lot of expectations that really don't have anything to do with the regular "issues" of an election. But on a more personal level, I expect people to feel better about the country, be inspired to service of some kind and I expect more tolerance and unity in this country. I have many other "touchy-feely" expectations that I won't go into here, but you get the idea.



posted on Nov, 3 2008 @ 02:48 PM
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2012's going to be the end of the world, supposedly, so it doesn't really matter who gets elected they're going to screw the U.S. over and lead to it's destruction ... not to take a pessimistic outlook or anything...haha so just go with the flow and live life no matter who's going to be elected....

[edit on 3-11-2008 by baseball101]



posted on Nov, 3 2008 @ 04:44 PM
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

I expect to see a lot of difference in the economy. I expect to see people being able to buy houses and pay their mortgage. I expect to see a lot of jobs created as part of a movement toward energy independence. Once the first two priorities are working better (the economy is stable and we're working toward alternative energy), I expect the tax cuts plan to kick in. I do think there will be SOME tax cuts right away, but I don't expect his full plan to take effect until the economy is more stable.


Then I'd say prepare to be disappointed. The U.S. economy is based on the global economy nowadays. How well we do depends on how well the rest of the world does.

As for people being able to buy houses AND pay the mortgages, are you talking about with or without government/taxpayer assistance? You have to remember that the predatory lending practices started when Clinton was in office and took 10 years to blow up when no one did anything about how out of hand it got, including the Republicans and Democrats in office. People are never again going to be able to buy houses they cannot afford, which is exactly how it should be. But I'm not willing to foot the bill for a tax increase to help people who make less money than I do be able to afford a better house. My money is my money because I worked hard to earn it, and I choose to put it into savings for my daughter's education!

Obama expects to see green energy jobs created, but he doesn't say anything about the jobs lost in the oil and coal industry that he will not support, nor in the nuclear industry which he will not address. The layoffs in the oil industry alone are probably enough to offset the number of jobs he WANTS to create with green energy jobs and then some.

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posted on Nov, 3 2008 @ 05:11 PM
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Obama will ring in a bunch of socialistic like programs in an attempt to get America back on track. Though the word socialistic looks bad, I am not using it in a bad way. Many of FDR's plans were considered socialistic in nature and they are still in use today. The only problem I see with Obama is that their will be conflict between Pelosi and Obama. I feel Pelosi is foaming at the mouth in anticipation of an Obama win. I feel Pelosi has her own agenda to save America. Some may be in tune with Obama agenda but most won't. While Obama is busy taking care of foreign issues, Pelosi will take charge of Domestic issues. Obama will have input but Congress writes the laws. I think within the first 100 days we will see the real Obama and what he really represents. I also feel that if Obama wins you will see the rich moving their assets between now and inauguration day.



posted on Nov, 3 2008 @ 05:32 PM
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Originally posted by sos37
The U.S. economy is based on the global economy nowadays. How well we do depends on how well the rest of the world does.


Is that why when our stock market crashed, the rest of the world's followed? We are an integral part of the world's economy. We are not at the mercy of the rest of the world, we contribute to it.



Obama expects to see green energy jobs created, but he doesn't say anything about the jobs lost in the oil and coal industry that he will not support, nor in the nuclear industry which he will not address.


If you haven't heard him say that he supports clean coal AND safe nuclear, you haven't been listening.

Since this is off-topic, I'll not address it further here.



posted on Nov, 3 2008 @ 11:51 PM
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Obama isnt my pick out the two so forgive my postings .

From a Kiwi perceptive I would expect Obama to advocate energy policy's that have or will fail . Otherwise on the credit side of the ledger I expect there would be a renewed focus on Afghanistan and renewing the US and its allies resolve to win that war . Its not impossible that New Zealand could receive a request to send more troops to Afganistan .

Cheers xpert11 .

[edit on 4-11-2008 by xpert11]



posted on Nov, 4 2008 @ 12:25 AM
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I think people are missing the whole significance of what this all means...
If Obama wins, then the world will look at us different. Like we are not the war mongering country that the world sees us as. We can possibly travel abroad without the negative stipulation of being "americans" as we have dealt with lately. maybe a chance to be seen as not anti-islam. maybe a chance to not be remembered as the country that said well F^^^ NATO, we goin in. to gain some respect back. I dont care what anyone says, the world is watching and its time to make people look up to us, not look away from us, and if that means biting the bullet instead of spreading them sometimes, then lets do it. To have world support in this time of global economic stress is very important.
and from a personal standpoint, being in an interracial marriage. I want to be able to tell my kids, when and if i have them, that they can be anything they want, an astronaut, a doctor, or the president, and show a true example that america has turned away from the past we have tried to hide for too long, and we have truly turned a corner. and we are ready to ACCEPT new ideals and morals that we hid from for so long.



posted on Nov, 4 2008 @ 10:38 AM
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