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Why are stealth scientists worried about Sky Fishing?




Topic started on 3-11-2008 @ 10:43 AM by Dbriefed


I once talked to a stealth scientist who mentioned his community was concerned about folk doing sky fishing. I got the sense that visual detection was part of stealth and focused on what the human eye could see, but digital cameras are seeing what they're not supposed to.

Anyone knowledgeable know?



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reply posted on 3-11-2008 @ 10:51 AM by HiAliens


Fascinating, flagged.

Do you sky fish yourself? Got any good pics to share? I did a search on it and found some interesting sites. Do you know any good sites you can share?

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reply posted on 3-11-2008 @ 10:52 AM by Acidtastic


sorry,I seem to be missing some information on this.

What the bleedin'eck's sky fishing?



Is it just taking pictures of the sky in a random fashion?



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reply posted on 3-11-2008 @ 11:09 AM by HiAliens


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People are getting huge (30 foot+) carbon fibre rods and aiming the hooks at the sky, to see what they can catch. Stealth Bombers are getting caught in the lines and brought down on a daily basis, the military is up in arms about it.

I had to google it myself actually, though I had a pretty good idea what it was. It's actually the act of taking a high-powered camera, especially one with broad spectrum capability such as infra-red, and aiming it at an apparently empty sky. You examine the footage later and hope to find UFOs/whatever that you couldn't see with the naked eye.



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reply posted on 3-11-2008 @ 11:20 AM by BeyondBelow


COOL! that would explain the new ir and infared images that have been poping up on the net. I need to get an IR cam soon then, any one got some cool shots?



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reply posted on 3-11-2008 @ 12:05 PM by pieman


what!!! not even one sky hook joke, i'm disgusted.

what exactly is a stealth scientist?



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reply posted on 3-11-2008 @ 05:29 PM by Zaphod58


They are developing new visual stealth systems that won't have any problem with sky fishing. I've seen an early model visual stealth array that easily fooled a regular camera, and the people working on it said that they're well beyond that, and moving into infrared and beyond.



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reply posted on 3-11-2008 @ 05:32 PM by BeyondBelow


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A scientist thats also a NINJA! WHHHAAAA!, get it stealth scientist?



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reply posted on 3-11-2008 @ 06:47 PM by Dbriefed


Jeeze, I got the jokester crowd!

Acidtastic and BeyondBelow got it right, sky fishing is taking a series of photographs of the sky with camera with high sensitivity...sensors and examining the photographs afterwards, usually with computer enhancement.

Stealth scientist - maybe I should clarify that. Scientists associated with aerospace companies from many background disciplines that contribute to stealth technologies.



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reply posted on 3-11-2008 @ 07:44 PM by FredT


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Of what utility would this be in a tactical environment however? Esp. For stealth aircraft? I mean the analysis time would have to be greater than the mission time to be sure. You might get say basic cource track etc, but a few evasive manuvers would throw that off anyway.



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reply posted on 3-11-2008 @ 10:07 PM by nanobyte


Originally posted by Dbriefed
I once talked to a stealth scientist who mentioned his community was concerned about folk doing sky fishing. I got the sense that visual detection was part of stealth and focused on what the human eye could see, but digital cameras are seeing what they're not supposed to.

Anyone knowledgeable know?

What possible harm would this "sky fishing" do?
I know aerospace engineers, project managers on variety of UAV projects, some are stealth. None have ever mentioned being somehow fearful of people with digital cameras.

If someone sees something that defies known physics or simply doesn't look or behave like known technology it will just be written up as another UFO sighting.



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reply posted on 4-11-2008 @ 11:42 PM by Dbriefed


My best guess is that sky fishing could lead to more sophisticated detection technologies. If you figure out what specific wavelengths to monitor you could then develop ultra-sensitive sensors. Submarines were thought invisible until ultra-sensitive magnetic 'squid' sensors were developed that sensed submarines from alterations in the earth's magnetic field.

Also you might be able to establish flight patterns and schedules.

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reply posted on 24-11-2008 @ 11:53 PM by retcc1


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This is most likely a fear of a return to simple area defense by balloon. My paternal great grandfather was in the U.S. Army Balloon Corps in WW-I.

The use of barrage balloons suspending anti aircraft steel nets and cables was used through WW-II against tactical air support aircraft.

A return to modern, lower weight, high tech anti aircraft balloon barrages could result in huge areas, 10's of thousands of feet high, being shielded by high strength fiber based nets.

These nets would be as stealthy as the stealth aircraft, and just as hard to detect. Any penetrating aircraft would have its flight terminated early, stealth or otherwise.



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reply posted on 26-11-2008 @ 07:38 AM by Now_Then


Works both ways!

I mean all sorts of stuff is constantly being developed to monitor our every thought and movement in our daily lives, in everything from CCTV,s ariel drones being used not just in war zones, this sky fishing (first time I've heard that term - like it) seems to be quite a cost effective and interesting way to monitor them! -

Mind you, western nations would probably be put at a disproportionate disadvantage by this - they don't seem to crack down on the internet as much as the likes of China.



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reply posted on 26-11-2008 @ 08:43 AM by logician magician


"Skyfishing" seems more likely to be a concocted reason to spread around photoshopped images and write books for nutters.



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reply posted on 26-11-2008 @ 10:14 AM by intelgurl


Originally posted by Dbriefed
...sky fishing is taking a series of photographs of the sky with camera with high sensitivity...sensors and examining the photographs afterwards, usually with computer enhancement.


This borders on the absurd.

Potential high tech enemies already know the theoretical where advanced stealth is concerned and would therefore know the spectral bandwidths to monitor if applicable to the method.

There is also no reason why advanced technology stealth test vehicles should be flying over non-restricted airspace unless it is a combat mission.

Then if spotted it can easily just be relegated to yet another UFO sighting.



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