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posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 07:00 AM
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Originally posted by pieman
your a funny guy DA, you reply to explanations that haven't been offered but ignore a logical explanation that's offered.

is it because you have a script or is it because you want an argument with a christian? don't get it.


Logical explanations? Where? I must have missed it.




posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 07:02 AM
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Originally posted by Deaf Alien
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if thats your bint then have at it, but it doesn't make it any more likely that you are correct than if you were to say god created the universe in seven days 'cos thats what the bible says happened.

There's plenty of evidence that gods in not only the bible, but also in many other scriptures are actually extraterrestrials. Plenty of threads on this on ATS and many books cover this also.

Which makes more sense, that gods were extraterrestrials or that God created the universe in seven days? The creation story was borrowed from Enuma Elish.


Keep talking man, everything your saying im adding to my "must research" list... *jotted down* Enuma Elish.

edit: grammar

[edit on 30/10/08 by serbsta]



posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 07:02 AM
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Originally posted by Deaf Alien
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It makes more sense to use the word Eloh to refer to a singular god. Christians have been trying to explain it away by saying that it refers to the Trinity.


I am Christian and don't believe in the trinity, it has absolutely no basis in scripture. To answer your question about why use the word Elohim, it has to do with what Elohim is. It is a spiritual family that is in creation, the first, the father, being Yahweh, second his first born son (spiritual birth at resurection), Jesus Christ, who is refered to as the "firstfruits". There are many scriptures hinting at this...

Romans 8:18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
19 For the earnest expectation of the creation waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
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21 Because the creation itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit , the redemption of our body.

1JOHN 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
19 For the earnest expectation of the creation waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.

Why is creation (the universe) waiting for the manifestation of the sons of God? Because creation is not yet complete, and we have the opportunity to help with this process. God is creating a spiritual family, that is why the word Elohim is used. Mainstream Christianity is blind to this. They think we die and go straight to heaven, when scripture actually says you return to dust and await the resurrection, and there are even two resurrections mentioned (Revelation 20). Anyway, it's a complex issue, and would takes pages to explain it all, but you can get a free book online called "Mystery of the Ages" which I highly recomend....

biblical-truth.com...


[edit on 30/10/08 by doctorex]



posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 07:05 AM
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the Trinity IS NOT biblical What do you mean by this? I havent finished reading the Bible completely yet though.


Well that's another topic in it's entirety. I made a thread on this on BTS.
www.belowtopsecret.com...
Basically, the concept of the Trinity was added much later.



posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 07:09 AM
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There you go


Enuma Elish links:
en.wikipedia.org...
www.sacred-texts.com...



posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 07:11 AM
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The Bible is full of contradictions and can not be relied upon when used as supportive evidence for any given arguement.

At times literal interpretations are offered, other times implied interpretations are given, then again some times we are expected to read between the lines and at others we are expected to believe that there is some sort of hidden, almost gnostic message in it.

The Bible is twisted and bent to support individual personal interpretations and as such is most unreliable!



posted on Oct, 30 2008 @ 07:17 AM
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Originally posted by Freeborn
The Bible is full of contradictions and can not be relied upon when used as supportive evidence for any given arguement.

At times literal interpretations are offered, other times implied interpretations are given, then again some times we are expected to read between the lines and at others we are expected to believe that there is some sort of hidden, almost gnostic message in it.

The Bible is twisted and bent to support individual personal interpretations and as such is most unreliable!


It is not the Bible that is unreliable, but mankind that does the twisting. The only contradictions come when people don't even understand what it is saying.



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